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YOUR TURN: How Should The City Fight Crime?

City officials are working together this week to brainstorm new initiatives to combat crime in the city. What's your best idea for the mission?

While crime rates at both and national level have continued to go down over the past two decades, tensions remain high in the city after two weekend shootings.

Mayor Gary Christenson to brainstorm “new initiatives” to tackle violence in the city.

Realizing you're all full of ideas – and noting a number of decision-makers read our comments section – we wanted to ask readers: how should the city improve it's crime-fighting?

It can be simple ideas (e.g. more police officers) or something completely out-of-the-box (e.g. RoboCop).

Whatever they are, share your thoughts with other readers in the comments below.  

J.longbow August 24, 2012 at 02:38 PM
"when you were a teenager" Im sure that was several years ago and times have changed sir. This is a 2 income society. Many more kids have broken homes. Thats just the way of life now. For a long range plan you need to start working on the younger kids to establish a rapport with the city services, police etc. Gone are the days when your kid can just wander around and find something to do. Then maybe you can push your keyboard aside and get up and help out.
Chris Caesar August 24, 2012 at 02:40 PM
"He's no racist," but believes 90% of government welfare goes to minorities. Congratulations, your comment has also violated our terms of service.
Diana August 24, 2012 at 02:45 PM
Annie, I'm pretty sure he defines "liberal" as "person who cares about facts and truth and fancy book-learnin'", and I'll wear that badge with pride any day. :)
Chris Caesar August 24, 2012 at 02:48 PM
I understood the point, Paul. Your argument was that non-white immigrants don't care about their communities. We are done with the conversation. If you don't like it I am sure FreeRepublic would love to have you, okay? Not to mention you again called everyone stupid while whining about people calling you names. If you'd like to continue to argue your case feel free to email me. I'll be deleting any future references to my moderation because you are now officially trolling.
Meggle August 24, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Much less than 20% of the population of Malden is below the poverty line, which is around where you have to be to qualify for social programs. 40% of the population is some sort of minority. The numbers don't add up. It's not possible for 90% of minorities to be on welfare programs if not enough people in Malden as a whole would even qualify for those programs. And besides, this isnt a suggestion on how to stop crime. Can we get back to that now?
fred August 24, 2012 at 03:47 PM
Chris 40% of population is non-white. out of that 40%, i estimated 90% were recieving some form of entitlement. food stamps, welfare, phone, ssi, heat assistence, housing. you liberals like to twist the facts.
fred August 24, 2012 at 03:49 PM
Paul, I guess i will be trolling with you.lol
Gene Pinkham August 24, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Racism is a violation of Free Republics rules along with obscenities and personal attacks. All of which are the hallmark of Democratic Underground.
Chris Caesar August 24, 2012 at 03:58 PM
You're right, I mistyped my synopsis of what you said (i.e. that 90% of minorities are on welfare, not that 90% are going to it). Either way, it's still inappropriate, not to mention 100% false.
Chris Caesar August 24, 2012 at 04:00 PM
I am sure both of those boards have their fair share of trolling.
Diana August 24, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Birther central is racism-free, huh? Interesting.
Diana August 24, 2012 at 04:02 PM
Your "estimation" is, by definition, not a fact.
DannyBoy August 24, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Paul Surette, fred: I don't need to be "educated" by your warped views regarding minorities. May I suggest the The Herald and Boston Globe's websites would be more accomodating venues to spew your opinions, and leave the Patch to the rest of us.
Andrew25 August 24, 2012 at 04:29 PM
Chris, Since you you have stated it to be "100% false" it might be helpful to post the actual percentage.
Michael G August 24, 2012 at 04:30 PM
So what do you all think about signs at all the borders of the city warning people that we have cameras and watch for crime? Might cost $2000 max.
Michael G August 24, 2012 at 04:39 PM
What the duck is wrong with people! Is this going to help reduce crime? Crime doesn't care what race you are or what party you are in. Paul and Fred are you happy that you high jacked a thread where people from both sides were coming together and giving ideas to keep your ass safe? This is just unreal.
Phe August 24, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Fred, between 2006 - 2010, the total percentage of Malden residents living below the poverty level was 12.8%. Are you "estimating" then that somehow, that 12.8% comprises 90% of ethnic minorities in the city? Well, let's see how the numbers stack up. 40% of the total population of 60,071 = 24,028 Fred's estimate of 90% of 24,028 ethnic minorities = 21,625 receiving income benefits granted as a result of living below the poverty level. But let's see...12.8% (the total percentage of Malden residents living below the poverty level) of the total population of 60,071 = 7,690. If we assumed that every beneficiary below poverty level in Malden is an ethnic minority, just to play your estimation game, I'd like to know where the other 2/3 of your estimated 90% disappeared to. To re-cap: There are approximately 24,028 "non-white" residents of Malden. There are approximately 7,690 residents of Malden living at an income level that affords them government benefits. Not even close to 90% of all ethnic minorities in this city. Granted, numbers are only as good as what's reported. But right now, that's what we have to go off of. You can plus or minus the margin of error by 5% (which is a fairly standard deviation for non-scientific studies but this is all based off of census data) which still doesn't give the percentage you estimate.
Chris Caesar August 24, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Fair point Andrew. When I deleted Fred's post it may have gotten rid of Meggle's reply, which included the figures:: "Fact is there is no single ethnic group where over 17% of the total population recover public assistance. The group with the most people receiving public assistance was American Indians/Alaskan natives. Most of Malden's minority groups are Asian/Pacific islander. Around 7.4% of the total population of this group in the US received public assistance. There is virtually no way that 90% of minorities in Malden receive public assistance, unless we are grossly different from the rest of the US. The facts don't back you up." "Much less than 20% of the population of Malden is below the poverty line, which is around where you have to be to qualify for social programs. 40% of the population is some sort of minority. The numbers don't add up. It's not possible for 90% of minorities to be on welfare programs if not enough people in Malden as a whole would even qualify for those programs."
Phe August 24, 2012 at 04:45 PM
I'd also like to add that I've always found that arguing with people I categorized as "liberals" was painful because in most cases in the past, the debate from that left-wing point of view was largely emotional, based on feelings, and almost never rooted in fact. For the first time in my adult life though, I have been lumped in and categorized as a "liberal" because I have always felt that arguing or debating *facts* and not *emotion*; that using some form of empirical instead of anecdotal evidence, was really a much safer and more reasonable, logical bet. I don't have a college degree either but I'm apparently a "Left-Wing-Liberal-Ivory-Tower-Spellchecker-PhD-Holder" based on what's been asserted about me, specifically, in forum threads here. Oh. And that I somehow know the words to "Kumbaya". My how the political landscape has changed in a decade. It's no wonder I remain an un-enrolled voter.
Phe August 24, 2012 at 04:53 PM
A25 - I broke the numbers down based on the Malden QuickFacts link I found with respect to population breakout. Fred is 100% incorrect.
Meggle August 24, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Signs alerting that some areas may be monitored by video surveillance sounds like a good idea, might want some near most of the areas with cameras (not necessarily with every camera, obviously) because I think it's right to warn people they're being recorded. I am sure no one wants to be caught picking their nose on camera ;). My only concern with cameras is that they are oriented so they're not invading anyone's private property, ie. they aren't looking in your windows/over a privacy fence. What people do in their own homes is their business.
Mike August 24, 2012 at 04:56 PM
This was supposed to be about how to solve our crime problem. The back and forth fighting takes away any credibility posting here has.To cut crime Malden needs more police officers. It needs an involved community which reports problems to the police and holds the courts accountable when the police arrest the people ruining our community.It needs property owners to take care of their property and not allow tenants to turn a neighborhood into their own personal playground. There is no reason for those of us who worked very hard to buy our homes to have to tolerate what has happened to Malden. I for one am tired of looking to blame anyone for the problem. The problem is here and now we have to deal with it. Please hire the appropriate number of police officers for a city not only this size but population density.Speak with the police officers you might come into contact with and tell them your concerns. They can't fix something they don't know is broken.
Michael G August 24, 2012 at 05:05 PM
Nice Mike :)
david mokal August 24, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Sure does Mike this has been nothin but a P'n contest back n forth. There are people on here just like to push buttons so they are not the credible ones. You dont put signs up tellin the people where the cams are it's like giving your ammo away to the enemy.
Andrew25 August 24, 2012 at 05:23 PM
I'm going to go with 65%.... That's my number and I'm sticking to it!
fred August 24, 2012 at 05:26 PM
OK, my original post was, "I am guessing 90%" Alright, that may be a far fetch, but the bottom line is, where ever those programs exist, trouble follows. These facts i do know. A good friend works in the Malden Court house. He is always giving me updates on the crime in the city. He told me that somerville and cambridge are cracking down on the crime associated with their minority population. There are MS13 gang members that were booted from housing. Guess who took them in. He said Malden Housing has MS 13 gang members. We have an enormous influx of Haitian decent. With our liberal government allowing our boarders to be over run by illegals. All receiving some kind of benefits. (food stamps) We have many illegals in Malden. Phe/Chris, I do not dought your numbers, but there seems to be a disconnect with the poverty level and the stated percentage receiving social program assistance. How can the poverty level in malden be below 20% when only 50% of the people are tax paying citizens. The other 50% has to be receiving assistence. I hear that the largest employer in Malden is the city of Malden. I have been living in this city for 57 years, and again, I will throw out a guess. MAYBE 20% of city employees are minority. Doesb any know that #?
david mokal August 24, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Meggie your stats dont mean anything and you have done more than your share of insults. Every topic you come across no mater who or what it is. Goes on and on. Like Mike says get to the point what the city needs. Hey I got a good one for ya! Look up the Lynn Fells Daycare and see how witnesses where cohersed because the detectives had something on each and every one. An open Daycare you could walk in anytime...kids brought in filthy by their low life moms. Check that one out you'll be amazed. Dirty Deeds done Dirt Cheap. Been here 66 years and forgotten what you will ever know. Look up stats on Murders in Malden there's another all free.
Diana August 24, 2012 at 05:35 PM
Racists are bad at math. True story.
Chris Caesar August 24, 2012 at 05:36 PM
Fred, "all of them" are on food stamps? That's a pretty bold claim. Politifact said a previous claim that about 40% of them were ranked as a "Pants on Fire" distortion: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/19/facebook-posts/facebook-post-says-more-43-percent-all-food-stamps/ "None of this even takes into account an even more basic reality: It is against the law for Illegal immigrants to receive food stamps and the government has a process to verify immigration status. Citizen children of illegal immigrants can qualify (there are 3.5 million, according to Pew) but that's not enough to make the math work. Is it possible some illegal immigrants receive food stamps anyway? Sure. But even if every single one somehow managed to fool the government, it still wouldn't be enough to account for the 43 percent."
Chris Caesar August 24, 2012 at 05:37 PM
So do stats only mean something when they are about murder? Look, this thread has devolved into just complete idiocy. I'm shutting it down.

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