City Announces Changes to "Pay As You Throw"

"Short term" solutions are aimed at mitigating some resident complaints about the program.

The City of Malden website reported some changes to the "Pay As You Throw" program that took effect this week, including the introduction of smaller bags for consumers who use less trash. 

New eight gallon bags will be sold at .50 a piece at all outlets where blue bags are available, the city release read. Residents will also be able to buy a smaller 5-pack of bags. 

The new blue bags, along with the 33-gallon and 15-gallon varieties, will be shipped directly to stores, with none available at the Department of Public Works or Treasurer's office. 

The city release noted these were "short term" solutions to the problems facing the "Pay As You Throw" program, started by Mayor Richard Howard in 2008. 

Mayor Gary Christenson told readers in his that his administration was "working on a way to eliminate the blue bags." 

He encouraged readers to use covered trash bins to help keep the city cleaner.

Check out this YouTube video provided by Ward 7 Councilor Neal Anderson, who teamed up with Bobby Knox and Ron Zanazzo of the Malden Department of Public Works to help show residents how to properly recycle and contain trash.

Z March 07, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Since this program started this city has been looking like the city dump !!
Rachel B March 07, 2012 at 10:25 PM
I know that as a parent of two small children in diapers, our garbage is extensive. Our disposable diapers take up at least one big bag. What makes the PAYT program hard for us is the cost of bags coupled with the terrible quality of the bags! They rip, tear and are not designed for heavy or large items even though they are large bags. It is difficult to be faced with the dilemma of having to "afford" to throw away your garbage. It feels unfair that on top of a lagging economy young families in need of support are faced with economic pressure from the very towns that are taking their hard earned taxes.
coldwaterdiver March 08, 2012 at 02:57 PM
They used to call that "Taxes"
coldwaterdiver March 08, 2012 at 03:01 PM
"D", those large buildings are required to have independent trash removal. You are right to a point though, any city housing, (elderly and low income developments) do not use the blue bags. So its not fair to all residents. Basically this was a money making scheme that didnt make the money it was supposed to. And dont forget, our new mayor was on the city council when our old mayor snuck this in the back door.
coldwaterdiver March 08, 2012 at 03:01 PM
Funny, almost everyone I knew from High School has left town.
coldwaterdiver March 08, 2012 at 03:03 PM
"So no one is exempt from paying for trash pick up" Except anyone living in one of the many subsidized housing developments. What percentage of Malden is subsidized anyway, 20%.....30%?
coldwaterdiver March 08, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Remember people, PAYT was not designed to address trash removal. It was designed to make the city money. They were pretty much up front with that.
coldwaterdiver March 08, 2012 at 03:12 PM
The city of Gloucester used to have a sticker program, same idea as the bags, only you get to choose the bags you want, and put a sticker on anything non recycleable. But really, trash removal is an essential service, on that our city taxes, (which seem pretty high considering my house as lost 20% of its value) had historically payed for. Now that the city council and former mayor has brought in this new revenue stream, you can count on it being here forever.
Joe Gray March 08, 2012 at 09:48 PM
Not assisting this revenue stream. Guessing the city "isn't" making the kind of revenue off of this that they thought they would. Never bought a blue trash bag. Never intend to.
stella March 09, 2012 at 03:57 AM
Kelly, I dont know if this is true or not but i heard that the former mayor howard renewed the trash companys contract for 20 years. Again i dont know for sure if this is true or not.
DannyBoy March 09, 2012 at 12:49 PM
mad dog, it is true: just read page 69 of the document that you can access from the link sent by Bobby James, it's in writing, plain and clear.
Raj March 10, 2012 at 05:16 PM
Even if you do everything right and put out your recycle bins and used the blue bags, the quality of the bags has been getting thinner and thinner with the drawstring almost like its perforated..so the bags break either just by filling them or when neighborhood dogs or scavengers for cans break into them. Then there is the fact that most weeks JRM does not pick up the recycle bins at the same time as the trash bags, so the trash blows around all day. Then there is JRM themselves. If they have a mishap when collecting bags or bins and drop trash into the street, they do not pick it up! I don't know why the city contracts with JRM when they have plenty of city workers sitting in Honey Dew donuts on Eastern Avenue every morning around 9:30am! The only solution to Malden's trash problem is get rid of the blue bags and go back to a local based solution to collect the trash, where the people that work collecting the trash have pride in the city for giving them employment and accountability as well.
Marc Levine March 10, 2012 at 05:48 PM
So Raj you would like it to go back to the way it was before the blue bags when there was no incentive to recycle. The incentive is they save money on not having to buy so many blue bags. Get rid of blue bags, good idea. Go back to the way it was before, bad idea. A different system the Mayor is trying to come up with, excellent idea.
Marc Levine March 10, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Sounds like a plan Homeowner
Diana March 10, 2012 at 07:30 PM
coldwaterdiver, 11.4% of Malden Housing is subsidized. You're welcome. http://www.massaffordablehomes.org/mahamap.html
paul surette March 10, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Word up on that, Raj....if the city workers aren't sitting at either Dunkin' Donuts or Honey Dew, they are parked at Anthony's on Canal Street for an 'extended' lunch. Dear Mr. Levine.....the blue trash bags came AFTER the recycling bins came to fruition ! But I'm sure you knew that :)
Marc Levine March 10, 2012 at 11:28 PM
I knew that. There has to be a better way to recycle instead of the bins. The bins were okay when people did not recycle that much (before the blue bags:) But now that we have the bags (or in the future something different) we need bigger containers that have lids. Don't plan on the old way anytime soon. In Melrose they pay a flat fee of $200 a year for a one family and $400.00 a year for a two family. My buddy lives alone and he recycles. He may have one small bag a week after recycling everything he does.
stella March 11, 2012 at 02:06 PM
I feel the residents of MALDEN would continue to recycle if city hall got rid of the blue bags. The only difference between the city bags and the green hefty bags we used to use is PRICE. They are both biodegradeable. WHY dosen't city hall let the residents go back to the old way for one month and in that month if nothing has changed then keep the blue bags.
Marc Levine March 11, 2012 at 04:26 PM
It's human nature more times then not, if you are not forced or if there is no direct benefit to you, your not going to do it. (as far as recycling goes) The mayor and his team are trying to "build a better mouse trap" It's not going to happen over night. So until the new mouse trap is built we are going to have to deal with what we have. Reply at will.......
DannyBoy March 11, 2012 at 05:07 PM
As the residents of Malden have become more diverse over the years, it would be helpful to the city and its residents if they made instruction videos in a language other than English, as there are more and more non-native English speakers in this city. Case in point: the tenants, who live in the multi-family house next door, are Chinese, speak Mandarin, and they don't seem to quite get this whole trash/recycling thing.
Bobby James March 12, 2012 at 01:02 PM
@Jazz Snowden - there's a big difference between single stream and co-mingled. Malden allows for co-mingled for non-paper based recyclables, but all the towns around us support single stream.
Marc Levine March 12, 2012 at 03:26 PM
Well folks.....I am going to leave this in the hands of the powers to be an see what happens. Hopefully a different system will be the answer. It's not going to happen over night, so be patient. Also you can't please all of the people all of the time. With that in mind, I'm done debating this issue. Waiting for the next........8)
Marc Levine March 12, 2012 at 03:30 PM
930 am is their break time. Whether you want them to have one at this time is a different story. It's been this way for as long as I can remember. Got a complaint with JRM call them directly. I do and they ALWAYS correct the problem.
Deanna MacMillan March 17, 2012 at 05:18 PM
I asked about the bags at Stop and Shop yesterday, and they had no clue about this change.. Does anyone know where I can find them??
DannyBoy March 17, 2012 at 06:32 PM
Deanna, your best bet is to call DPW and find that information from them.
Deanna MacMillan March 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Thank you, DannyBoy. :)
smpolli March 30, 2012 at 12:08 AM
Raj..there are city employees at Honey Dew at that time of the morning because it is there scheduled coffee break. Union contracts allow them 2 breaks and a lunch period. That has nothing to do with the fact that the JRM employees are irresponsible when picking up the trash and recycling. I agree the bag quality is poor and they also take no care with the recycle bins. It is though a city ordinance that the trash bags be put out in barrels, it was always on the website, not sure if it still is ..which in the long run helps the city animals stay out of the bags. I am all for getting rid of the bags and going to barrels though.
MaldenWasGreat May 03, 2012 at 04:39 PM
any idea why the bags can't be purchased at city hall or the city yards anymore?
DannyBoy May 03, 2012 at 05:05 PM
No idea why, but you can always call and ask DPW or City Hall.
Bobby James June 15, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Here's one for ya - looks like good ole Richie Howard is still in bed with JRM: http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/arlington/2012/06/arlington_placing_limits_on_tr.html?p1=Well_Local_YourTownlinks "The first change will come July 2 when the town’s new contractor, Peabody-based JRM Hauling and Recycling, will begin picking up recycling every week instead of every other week. Seasonal pickup of yard waste will also move to a weekly schedule." Thanks for that sweethart 20 year deal on your way out when you didn't give a crap about anything else, Richie. JRM obviously has good ole Richie in their pocket, or on their payroll.


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