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The 4 Biggest Computer Rip-Offs

This February marked my 10th year in the IT industry, not counting years of messing around and writing programs in BASIC on a Tandy 2000. Over those years, I've seen and heard a lot of ways that people get suckered into buying extra services and software that they don't need, by department stores and Mom-and-Pop PC repair shops alike.

If you're planning on buying a new computer, or taking yours in for service anytime soon, watch out for these 4 ways you could be throwing away extra money.

 

1. "System Setup" and "Optimization Services"

When you buy a computer from most of the big-box electronics and office supply stores, one of the first things they'll ask you is, "would you like us to set it up for you?" This service usually includes:

  • Taking the computer out of the box
  • Turning the computer on and booting it once or twice
  • Performing Windows Updates
  • Removing trial software that the manufacturer put on there
  • Desktop tweaks

Sure, it sounds convenient, and considerate, but what you won't know is that this service is completely useless, to the tune of $30-50. If you're a reasonably intelligent person (and since you read this blog, I know you are), then you can uninstall trial software yourself, and you can also update Windows too, using the Windows Update application.

Don't fall for any claims of "speeding up your computer by 200%", or anything of the like. They're simply not true - in fact, according to The Consumerist, optimization services made the computer perform worse than non-optimized computers.

The salesperson working with you is going to be a little pushy about the services - after all, most of the big-box stores don't make money off of the computer itself, but the services are nearly 100% profit. Stand your ground, and take your business elsewhere if you have to - they don't want you to leave.

 

2. Anti-Virus Subscription Plans

Usually part of the "optimization services", Anti-Virus subscription plans promise free virus definition downloads for the Anti-Virus program on your laptop (which likely was already installed as trialware when you bought the laptop).

What's so bad about this? Well, consider that there are plenty of free antivirus programs out there which automatically update themselves at least once a week. The charge for this service seems to run anywhere between $30-70, which is a major rip-off, especially considering that most times this is only for a 6-month subscription; that means you could be shelling out tons of money per year for protection that you could be getting for free, which is just as good as the paid kind.

Also, this is usually NOT part of optimization/setup services - it's a completely seperate, extra charge.

 

3. "Computer Tune-Up"

Anytime I see this, I want to vomit. It goes along with the silly notion that your computer can be "optimized" to run "200% faster"... if your computer could run that speed, it would run it out of the box.  

"Tune-ups" are services that include the following:

  • Clearing temporary files
  • "Optimizing hard-drive space" (AKA, defragmenting the hard drive)
  • Performing Windows Updates
  • Creating User Accounts
  • Speed up startup and shutdown

To be quite frank, these services are a $50-100 waste of time and money. Any person is capable of cleaning temporary files, defragmenting their hard drive, and performing Windows Updates. Speeding up startup and shutdown is a dubious claim at best - it's possible they could make some tweaks that might help, but it's certainly not worth the money you'd shell out for it.

 

4. Not Knowing What You Need in a New PC

Arguably, the worst thing you can do when shopping for a new computer, is not knowing what you're going to use it for. Is this for business/work purposes, or for home use? If it's for home use, are you playing SkyRim on it, or are you just browsing the web and using Word?

"Okay, well, that's just being uninformed, it's not really a rip-off."

Well, aren't we a smartypants know-it-all...

Let's say you're in (big-box electronics store), looking for a new computer. Here's the conversation you have with the salesperson that accosts you:

Salesperson: What are you looking for today?

Customer: I'm looking for a new computer, but I don't know which to choose. I have one that's about 5 or 6 years old now...

Now, the next question should be, "well, what are you going to use it for?" Instead, the salesperson will lead you over to the latest and greatest.

Salesperson: This is a quad-core i7 laptop with 8GB of RAM, and a 1TB hard drive, with a 17" UXGA+ screen, and a webcam, a bottle opener, and a 3-head electric razor.

Customer: Do I... need all that?

Salesperson: Wellllll, it's pretty fast, and it's top-of-the-line, so go with this one.

Note that the salesperson has yet to ask, "What are you using this laptop for?" The thing is, these salespeople are in it for the sales - even if they aren't on commission. That said, being in sales doesn't mean they are knowledgable about computers or technology... but they will do their best to fake it, and make you walk out the door with the most laptop you can buy, even if it's not necessary for you.

The general rule is, if the laptop's primary use is for web browsing and Word documents, you don't need the high-end laptop with the blazing fast processor, packed with RAM (memory) with the biggest hard drive imaginable.

This is also the point where they'll really push the services. Remember, the stores make very little profit off of the computer hardware itself - the services are where the big money is made, and it's what the salesperson will be the most pushy about. Stand your ground!

 

The Bottom Line

Google is your friend - always go into things like laptop purchases and services with as much information as possible. Know for certain what you're going to expect to do on your new laptop, otherwise you're an easy mark for an upsell.

But, it's your money, spend it as you see fit - just do it on your terms, not the big-box store's terms.

Good luck out there!

Always feel free to e-mail mikeg@forestdaleinfosystems.com if you have a question you'd like to have answered in this blog, or if you ever need IT consultation.

ForestDale

7:45 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Um... I just checked out forestdaleinfosystems. com and right on the first page of services offered is "OS tune-up" :-)

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Mike G.

7:47 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Bah, I knew it.

I made that page some number of years ago, and forgot that I had it on there. Sue me ;-)

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Mike G.

8:11 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Yup, that's exactly what I said. Thanks for reading, and for your contribution :)

jirkyrick

8:55 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Hahahah, yah gotta admit, it is funny.

There are some good tools out there for registry optimization and disk clean up, but most of them are not free. If the company is using legit tools,it may be worth it to a lot of users to have someone clean up the system. Most people dont even know hot to do the simplest tasks like cleaning out temp files. So I would not go out so far as to say these services are useless, they can make a difference. Still the best way to improve performance, wipe out the disk and reinstall the os

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Mike G.

2:34 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

There are, definitely. They can certainly go badly in the wrong hands. CCleaner is pretty good, and free (last I checked). Malwarebytes is fantastic, and it's free - you don't need to buy the full product to get malware protection from it. And I have no problem with anyone who chooses to pay for anti-virus; to me, it's not completely necessary, but if it keeps your computer free of viruses and malware and offers you less frustration, it's worth it.

I still do feel that a lot of the services are pretty unnecessary, that you're throwing away a LOT of money that a few minutes of googling can save. The way I look at it is this - those services are like fuel injector cleaner that Valvoline tries to sell you. I won't go so far as to say it's a placebo effect thing, but it only goes so far. Some people swear by them, some people (like myself) don't bother; YMMV, right?

ForestDale

10:39 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Mike, just to be clear, I was just teasing. I like your blog. Though jirkyrick does bring up a good point about cleaning the registry. It's not really a novice task and some of the non freeware applications are worth the money. The trick is finding the right one.

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Mike G.

11:13 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

I know you were teasing, and that was actually a good reminder -- that site was really old and needed to be updated. I'm not sure what that person's issue is, but hey, it's the Internet.

jirkyrick

10:48 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Malware bytes is really good if you get some of the more nasty viruses, and its good for a 30 day free trial. I myself would pay for antivirus,. After all you get what you pay for

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david mokal

4:22 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Ive used superantispyware that does great.

jirkyrick

10:50 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

And for the record, the biggest risk right now is spear fishing, or social engineering, never answer emails from banks , insurance companies, credit unions, your investment plans. They will not send you email. If they have email for you, it will be on their sites or web pages after you have already logged in to them.

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Mike G.

11:08 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

100% agree.

You know, I think some blogger might've written about social engineering on this site.... ;)

david mokal

10:52 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

I like his knowledge its a good posts. They do rip you off. Ive seen at Best Buys them offering a Lady to install an antivirus for her @ $150.00 buckaroos. Thats $100 dollars to slip in a disk. Mike is right.

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Mike G.

10:01 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

The most alarming thing to me is the upselling... now, I used to work retail, so I know that sales are paramount to anything else, but the dishonesty and getting people to spend so much money on stuff they don't need, knowingly, is what gets me the most. I hate to use the car analogy again, but imagine if you're a guy who knows nothing about cars, but you're pretty sure you need a small car for city driving. You go into a car dealership and the salesman convinces you that you need a full-size SUV, using lingo and sales techniques rather than educating you on what you ACTUALLY need.

Being a professional, and knowing that people get ripped off and it affects the perception of people in my industry who work alongside me, it just pisses me off.

jirkyrick

10:55 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

And never give real personal info on your Facebook page, never put your real birthday, real city, vacation plans etc, just makes it to easy for thieves to steal your identity or or your house. You would not believe how many people do this

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Mike G.

11:10 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

I see people still leaving their check-ins public on Facebook and Twitter. It's like they're begging to be robbed because they're saying "I'm not home right now, please help yourself to my stuff"

jirkyrick

10:57 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Yeh, best buy is a rip off,100 dollars just to look at it. The best advice on that is shop around or use google to learn to fix it yourself

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Mike G.

11:12 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

I'm trying not to rag on a particular store, and I'm sure there are some great employees for this particular chain, but check out this Consumerist article:

http://consumerist.com/2011/06/10/9-confessions-of-a-former-geek-squad-geek/

The first point is pretty alarming: " A high percentage of Geek Squad employees lack basic troubleshooting skills such as correctly identifying malfunctioning components. This stems from inadequate and outdated training materials, such as the Best Buy Learning Lounge."

It's like having a mechanic work on your car who doesn't know the first thing about picking up a wrench. (Maybe not quite as dangerous)

david mokal

4:29 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Mike do you repair or upgrade computers as well?

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Mike G.

7:37 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

David, these days I'm more of a consultant to small businesses and organizations, but occasionally I do side jobs.

Kelly Ilebode

5:27 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Excellent blog! I wish everyone would read, especially in regards to the anti-virus - I have two free male-ware and two virus software programs loaded on my laptop and run them once a month and they are so much better than any that you can purchase.... As far as the pc/laptop - I go with basic basic basic and then upgrade as needed.

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Mike G.

7:47 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Thanks!

That's great that you have anti-malware and anti-virus running on your laptop. Just a suggestion though - having two anti-virus and anti-malware programs running at once might cause your system to suffer a huge performance drop. Check to see if they're running in "on-access" mode, meaning, it scans files when they're read/written, which is pretty much constantly. Two of those processes running at once can be brutal.

Kelly Ilebode

5:29 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Oh and besides google I love majorgeeks.com very informative (for me) but then I am not a techy, just a writer

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Kelly Ilebode

8:18 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

You're Mike! I activate them only when I am scanning and run them separately having learned the hard way! It is interesting that what one program picks up the other does not.

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Kelly Ilebode

8:18 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Meant to say you are right Mike!

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Mike G.

8:50 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

I could certainly stand to hear that more often in my daily life ;-) Thanks!

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