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YOUR TURN: Salemwood School Says 'No' To Student Valentines, Parties

Salemwood School does not celebrate Valentine's Day or other holidays, citing concerns about diversity. What do you think about the controversial policy?

 

Salemwood School's policy of not celebrating holidays or birthdays during school hours isn't new, but has some residents fuming this Valentines Day. 

According to a letter sent to parents from Principal Carol Keenan last week, the school "(does) not celebrate holidays and/or birthdays during school hours," citing the "more than sixty-seven different cultures and languages" represented there. 

"We welcome and celebrate our diversity, however to insure equity of all beliefs we are unable to acknowledge specific holidays," she wrote. 

Critics respond

That didn't sit well with at least one parent, who wrote an anonymous letter to administrators and members of the media this week. 

"I have a son that attends the Salemwood School," he wrote. "I have been made aware that there is to be no celebrations of any kind at the Salemwood because of its diversity. This includes birthdays and non-religious holidays such as Valentine's Day.

"My son is DEVASTATED! He loves giving cards to his friends. The excuse I am being told is that there are too many different cultures represented at the school. Am I to believe that no other schools have students from other countries?"

Others on social media were equally critical. 

"Malden school cancels Valentines Day. Really Salemwood? Really?" @TheTrillJuan wrote. 

"Salemwood canceled Valentine's Day.... Really??" Kelly D'Amaral echoed on Facebook.

"I used to love going to school and exchanging cards with classmates! Little kids look forward to class parties and little holiday celebrations/traditions! Who ever made the decision to cancel Valentine's Day ought to be ashamed of themselves!"

An official weighs in

School board member Adam Weldai said that the policy is not unique to Salemwood, but said Keenan was the only principal to send a letter home to parents about the issue this year. 

" There are other schools that do the same thing, but it's not highlighted like this," he said, noting the policy would vary from school to school at the principal's discretion. 

Readers, what do you think about this ban on holidays? Is it a thoughtful way of including all students, or PC nannying gone amok? 

Related Topics: Valentines Day

McKersin Previlus

1:26 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

We keep ruining things for this generation day by day then I hear the audacity to ask why this generation of kids are the way they are, things like shortening and getting rid of recess, no dodgeball, basic alterations between kids are now elevated to levels they should not be and call everything bullying..... and now this..... we are not giving these kids a chance to be...KIDS!, I am not of generations of Americans and I am the first American in my family so I am not biased when I say this but, we are in America, and we have a culture as well... should we limit ourselves and our norms to promote " diversity"!?.... Irony at its best.

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Lynette

7:25 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I toally agree with your post. And it not even about Valentine's Day. It's about kids just not being allowed to do the things that were a given. I am not saying things can't be changed, but what is wrong with handing out a valentine to a fellow student. ALL students, regardless of culture may want to be included too. If not, then that is up to them. I just don't want to see the day when kids won't have ANY stories about what they did in school. Recess? No. Go up a slide by yourself? No. School dance? No. Christmas party, oops, I mean HOLIDAY party? No. What is that? I am being funny here, but it just seems as if kids can't do a darn thing these days

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Katie Bowdridge

1:41 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

You are completely right!! These kids aren't getting to enjoy their school experience. People wonder why today's generation hate school so much, maybe because there is nothing enjoyable about it anymore. They have nothing to look forward to or special rewards for a job well done.

Paulette

5:33 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

It's a shame we have children's rights taken away! Start early to loosing tradition and values! I'm disgusted!

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William A. Watkins

6:55 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I agree, I am disgusted after all this is the United States Of America no the United States of Political Correct . Every value and traditions I grew up with have all become against another beliefs. For every positive there are negatives as an example I believe in God, and some chose not to. This is fine with me, but to be PC lets take God out of the equation. I can not say the word In God We Trust and the group who does not believe in God wins because I can not say God. The United States has become to Political Correct . it is time we stood up and took back our rights, and put a stop to the Political Correct. When a person or group of people decide to live in The United States of America they know it is a melting pot. They have the right not to join in on something as simple as giving cards on Valentines Day. They have no right to take the right of the people who wish to give cards. This is what is wrong with America today it is to Political Correct.

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Diana

9:58 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

You grew up in THIS country? Really? How did you fail to learn the language?

TreyAnastasio

6:25 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I always thought valentines day was a
Catholic holiday since its about saint valentine.

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BostonUrbEx

7:13 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I don't think anyone has given a crap about Saint Valentine in decades. If you want to make it something like Admiration Day instead, all the power to you. But this absurd. A simple day of exchanging cards or small candies or whatever is now banned. McKersin's post is spot on. We keep sucking up kid's time to express themselves and release their energy in the name of "more" education. It doesn't work. Kids need recess, kids need time to express themselves, kids need silly/fun days on occasion. It's no wonder our education system is broken -- it is far too rigid, and it seems every day it gets a little more rigid.

Michael B Elvale

7:17 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Go to Asia, Europe, South America,and see if you can change their customs, beliefs, holidays, in the name of diversity. This is the only country in the WORLD where you can get your own way if you cry loud enough and get paid when "things" hurt your feelings.

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Cathy

8:53 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Michael B Elvale. I totally agree with you. That sad part is, it only takes one complaint from one person. I remember this past Christmas the Registry in Braintree had a small xmas tree in the entry and ONE SINGLE PERSON complained and they removed it. It's time WE ALL SPEAK UP AND SAY WE ARE OFFENDED!!!!!!!!

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Tellitlikeitis

11:07 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

you are absolutely correct,why do our kids,the american children have to give up all their traditions and beliefs because immigrants move into this country,when my grandparents moved to this country they embraced all the american traditions and cultures and taught us these traditions and it was fabulous growing up like this,the people running the public school system in this country are ruining the american children,making them believe that the american tradition and beliefs are wrong or at best something is wronf with them,and i am stating right now and i know alot of people will disagree with me,but do your homework and see which political party is doing all the damage to the schools and the kids with these crazy rules against being an american kid. it's the LIBERALS folks,they are the folks taking god and xmas and all american celebrations out of the school systems and replacing them with things like everyone wins in competition events,that you are entitled to all kinds of things,if it feels good for you then do it,no matter the consequences,our forefathers were bad people,gay and lesbian is good for everyone,they took all the good moral things in schools and replaced it with immoral stuff,i could go on and on but the bottom line is that these liberal politicians are ruining america and it's culture and traditions in favor of every one else's

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Mike G.

2:10 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

You really did seem to embrace the run-on sentence, that's for sure.

Lori golden

7:19 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

This is such a lousy thing to do to children! Let them be kids for the short time they are. Let them enjoy and celebrate holidays and birthdays! Instead of taking things away from them let them share the different culture holidays and celebrations instead of closing every thing out! Kids look forward to holidays especially valentines day! Us it really going to hurt to take 15 min out, even at the end if the day to allow kids joy and fun! I'm so glad my kids are old enough and don't go to salemwood! My kids got the chance to learn about different cultures and have fun being kids! Canceling celebrations just show kids how mean adults can be! This really makes me angry! What's next? I suppose they will kill off the Easter bunny next!

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Lynette

7:34 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Good post. LOL, I am afraid the poor Easter bunny will probably be next on the chopping block. Let's see. Bunny's don't carry baskets bearing candy so don't even think it. Like we really don't know the true story of Easter. Even the enjoyable Easter egg hunt will go too, as the word hunt will come under fire. LOL. I am being silly today.
But I think this is an issue to be discussed. Traditions are a good thing.

David Marsters

7:25 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

This is a bunch of bull crap. Doesn't anyone have the guts to stand up to these 10% people? They country is ruined by theses 10% ers. Bring back the way it use to be. If They don't like our traditions leave the country. Other countries would not let us do it to them.

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Lynette

7:36 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

The people you may be referring to didn't say anything about not giving out valentines. The school officials are the ones making the decision.

T. Scott

7:37 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I agree with all of you! This is so ridiculous. We live in a diverse world and this needs to be celebrated. I cannot believe that these children are being made to suffer because someone can't handle having a little bit of joy in their lives. I work in child care and in one of my very diverse classrooms, we celebrated every holiday that the parents asked us to. For the ones that I didn't know much about, I learned and asked for parents participation in the celebrations. Is it really that hard and does it take so much time out if their long school day to let the children express a nice gesture in this mean world? I think that many of the adults have a lot to learn from the children and learn to let loose and celebrate whenever there is an opportunity to do so! I wish that my children got to be a kids in my days. We got to celebrate everything and most of us turned out okay!

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David Marsters

7:43 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Well where do you think it comes from, the 10%ers are telling the school officials what they want, Ms Lynette!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! School officials have no guts, they are scared of their own shadows.

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Lynette

7:53 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Don't call me Ms. Lynette. I was just making a point. The school officials had better
get some backbone then.

M

7:45 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Suppression and expression of beliefs is NOT the answer here. Canceling traditions? Why not use this as an education experience? Teach about the customs of the country these people live in? Let's not exclude theirs either! Teach us! Does a country represented in the school have a specific holiday or custom? SHARE! Talk to the teacher and set aside time to TEACH the children about your customs. I don't see anything wrong with having a Christmas tree as long as you don't tell others they can't have a Menorrah. Let's have it ALL! Diversity is GOOD, people...

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Lynette

7:54 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Good point. This is our world today.

Ariann Nice

7:46 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

This is Ridiculous! I have two children that attend the Salemwood and they like many other students are very disappointed. And to receive the letter a day before, is wrong as well, I already purchased my kids Valentine's as I'm sure othe parents have to. I think I as well as others should be reimbursed for the Cards!

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Alethia B.

7:47 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Here we go with "politically correct police".

Give me a break, what is the big deal?

These people take the fun out of everything, geez!

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CAROL DESANTIS

7:51 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

valentines day has been a hoilday we have celebrated for years. it should not be taken away from those who enjoy celebrating this fun day. why take the freedom to celebrate a holiday away. whats next???
instead of raising our children that if they dont except a hoilday and it offends them that it should not be celebrated instead why not teach the children to respect other peoples believes and in turn they will respect each others
Carol DeSantis

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Lynette

7:57 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Carol, good post. The key word here is respect. It goes a long way.

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Diana

8:19 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Alternatively, why not spend that time teaching them English? You know, things like capitalization, spelling, punctuation, and that while synonyms exist, words are not entirely interchangeable. As examples, "except" is not the same as "accept" and "believes" is not the same as "beliefs."

Amidst all this outrage and screams of "I'm bein' repressed!!!" let's try to not lose sight of what schools are actually for.

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Kim B

5:11 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I agree, it bothers me too. I would never move to another country and expect them to change their customs/holidays, etc. I would also learn the language of that country. Good point someone made too is keep the focus of schools on learning the basics, particularly grammar, spelling, math.

K Smith

8:02 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Valentines Day is just a day for anyone to feel special it is not religious by any means! One day it would be nice to show classmates they care

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Mike G.

8:02 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

People, this is so silly to get outraged about. Valentine's Day is a Hallmark holiday, it's not about 'beliefs' and 'taking away a holiday'.

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Lynette

8:11 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I think the word outrage is too strong. I think most people are questioning the taking away of traditions or events that kids usually take part in. I feel everyday should be a Valentine's Day. In that respect, celebrate loving people every day. Not just one day.
Most holidays have become Hallmark Holidays because these companies can override the true essence of why we celebrate something. If you go the markets and check out the candy aisles, next to the Valentine's candy is the Easter candy and if you look really hard, right next to the Easter candy is a shelf dedicated to St. Patrick's day. It's all marketing, what they sell, what we purchase. It's not going away. What you can do is to keep what you think about holidays special and celebrate them the way you want.

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Mike G.

8:19 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Lynette, based on the amount of exclamation points and Caps Lock being used here, it sounds like the outrage has been turned up to 11.

I would disagree that most holidays have become Hallmark holidays, because most holidays didn't need marketing in the first place to become "a thing" - in other words, they had some significance or meaning to them to begin with.

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Lynette

8:33 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I don't think so about the Hallmark thing either. Just reiterating things. I know why I celebrate holidays. They bring my family together and we express our love for each other. Truth is, like most people, that happens everyday. It's just like a time out that we need from our busy lives to take stock of what life is really about.

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paul surette

5:17 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Well, Mike....here's where you and I disagree. Yes, this is but one 'special' tradition...tradition, an event that seems to be rapidly eroding in this country. Caused by the 'minority' of people who are offended at anything of an American tradition, yet these same people seem to forget what country they live in. And judging by the people who cow-tow to these 'groups', they must forget where they live as well. Remember when Merry Christmas was uttered in public places? It was then replaced with anything but that. I am an atheist, but even I grew up with the traditional Christmas. It's not a Christmas tree anymore....it's the 'giving tree'. Last I checked, Mike (I'm not directing this at you personally) this isn't the United States of Islam, this isn't the United States Bejing...it's the United States of AMERICA! Take back your traditions, people!

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Tellitlikeitis

10:32 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

mike g., you act like all the people that are upset with this valentines day party being cancelled are being petty. mike if you open your eyes and ears once in a while,you will realize that this is going on all over the country,and it is not just valentines day mike.the people are sick of bending over backwards to accomadate other cultures while our own is disappearing at an alarming rate.go ahead mike,start your nonsense with,we are all crazy racist's who do not want to include other cultures.they can have theirs,but not at the expense of ours,this is america,and american culture should be practiced with pride and joy,not be thought of as being wrong and insensitive towards others.every person on this site is an immigrant,s disciple,and every one on this site learnt english and culture and the act of celebrating american holidays from their immigrant parents and grandparents.whats the problem now,it has worked absolutely fantastic for 200 years here.now you and the folks that believe like you want to change it,in the name of inclusiveness,please stop the bull#hit and the made up notion of political correctness,any immigrant moving to this country today has 100 times better than when my grandparents moved here,they did not whine about any injustices or inclusiveness,neither did the millions of other immigrants with them and before them,you know what they did mike.they learnt the language and adapted to their new country and became americans,not just by name by adapting

Greg

8:03 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Biggest load of crap I've ever heard. So what their telling us is the Salemwood is the only school in the Malden Public School system that has diversity?? I'd like to know how one school can make this decision on it's own, without the school boards ok? The Salemwood is not it's own entity. It's either a city wide ban or not at all. Not that there shold be a ban, but it's either the whole school system or none at all. Seems like Ms. Keenan still doesn't know how to deal with diversity, so she just cancels things. What a joke. Thank God my kids are out out of tht hell hole.

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Lori Sullivan

9:56 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Perhaps this should go before the school board to decide and not the school? I think if people want to live here and go to school here, they need to adapt to our "traditions". We need to accepts other's, so they should accept ours. It's Valentine's and candy/cupcakes. What's the big deal?

Sharon

8:05 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I think the best way to teach our children about diversity is to explore each others customs, not hide them. How can we teach our children tolerance when they are sheltered from other traditions and told it is wrong to express your beliefs? By letting these celebrations take place, we can better understand our peers. My family enjoys partaking in different religious or ethnic celebrations and learning what other cultures do to celebrate their heritage. In the end the real lesson sometimes becomes that we are not really all that different.

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Tellitlikeitis

11:21 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

well put sharon,last time i checked this was a free country and our kids should be able to celebrate whatever holiday they want,and it works the same for the other cultures in this country, that's why they move here for freedom to do and believe in whatever they choose.so why is it ok for politicians,namely liberals to have the right to take that away from american children in the name of not insulting somebody that does not believe the way we do.vote these bums out of office and lets enjoy a free america again,one without this made up word " POLITICAL CORRECTNESS" there really is no such thing as that.it's a made up word,believe the way you want and don't let anyone tell you that you cannot say or do something cause it is not POLITICALLY CORRECT. i say we should abolish that stupid saying.

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HMaz

2:17 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

How is Valentine's Day a "belief"?

Mike G.

8:10 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

"My son is DEVASTATED"

You've got to be effing kidding me, really? I'm sure the kid is disappointed, but if that's not an exaggeration by an outraged soccer mom and this is what he gets DEVASTATED over, he must have a pretty darn good life.

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Lynette

8:18 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Give the mom a break. If her son is a kindergartner he probably got excited about giving cards to his friends and receiving candy. He probably already picked out his cards and signed them. I am sure she will talk to him about disappointment
and how things don't always go the way we want them too.

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Mike G.

8:23 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Sorry Lynette, I don't think she'll talk to him about disappointment - instead she'll talk about how unfair it is that other cultures "took away our holidays", as is the sentiment from many of these comments above.

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Lynette

8:39 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Okay-if you think that will happen, it's very sad. These kids have to go to school with each other and forge friendships and traditions. I don't know how this topic got off track about different cultures not wanting to celebrate the holiday. It seems the school officials made the call, unless I missed something in the article. I didn't see anything about certain parents making a stink.

Greg

8:11 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Here's something for Ms. Keenan to chew on? By doing this she is actually creating hatred amongst the students. By this I mean that the kids that were looking forwrd to Valentines Day are now going to be looking at the kids from other cultures and blaming them for this decision, because it may not be part of their culture. Which in turn could create problems within the school. Then who is Ms. Keenan going to blame?

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Mike G.

8:15 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

"65 different cultures and languages represented there" means they'd have to accommodate for the traditions and holidays of 65 different cultures. That's a pretty significant amount of time diverted AWAY from curriculum.

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Bobby James

9:07 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

And how many other holidays/sacred days/what have you are celebrated by those 65 different cultures that only those students are allowed to take off, yet they still get all the standard holidays as well?

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Diana

9:42 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

The schools are closed on the "standard" holidays, what exactly do you propose that students who don't celebrate those holidays do? Are you suggesting that we should close the schools on "their" holidays as well, just to be fair?

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Bobby James

10:17 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

What I'm saying is that constantly changing standards and policies is bad form. Celebrate everything in the schools and allow the student the choice to not participate. Part of welcoming other cultures isn't conforming, it's melding.

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Tellitlikeitis

2:45 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

hey mike g. why do we as americans have to give up our ways and traditions as to not offend someone else.what about them wanting to deny us our god given right to celebrate any holiday we choose and not be told by educators that it is wrong for us and right for them to deny us this right.my grandparents celebrated valentines day and it was taught to my parents and then taught to me and i taught it to my children and i hope and pray they teach it to their kids and so on,it's called traditions and culture and no matter what you or any other bleeding heart liberal says,it will continue in my family for generations to come,can i move to a country and expect them to stop celebrating a certain holiday in their schools that they have been celebrating for 100 years because i do not like it.you know the answer to that one mike.and i would not expect them to stop what they normally do,i am supposed to adapt to them,it is their country that i moved to,so i have to assimilate to their ways and customs not the other way around, why don't you try it mike,move to another country and let us know how acommodating they are when it comes to them changing their customs and rituals to accomadate you. can't wait for this one.

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Mike G.

4:12 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

No school is telling you not to celebrate a holiday. What they are saying is that the school won't be sponsoring any celebrations of any holidays.

I'm far from a "bleeding heart liberal", but nice try.

Greg

8:19 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

People who move here from other countires should have to decide if they want to participate in this countries traditions. If they want to fine, if not, that's fine to. But to start taking our customs away because of them is absolute bull !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Greg

8:24 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

@Diana; I do agree with most of your post. Whoever. No one is loosing track of what school is really for. Last I checked though school was still also supposed to be fun for kids of this age.

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Raj

8:37 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Another example of bending and abandoning our own traditions while embracing and requiring others. Some cultures don't use toilet paper, so should we remove it from the school too? Maybe Salemwood principal should concentrate on getting the grades and MCAS performance up to acceptable levels and curb bullying rather than condemn a US tradition based on LOVE!

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Mike G.

8:48 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Raj, the school doesn't celebrate ANY holidays, so it sounds like they're being equally prohibitive.

Jen

9:09 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

This is insane, enough is enough, I know all about diversity I see it everyday. But listen people have to start speaking up. If you have immigrated here. That is fine!!! But STOP!!!!!!! TRYING TO CHANGE OUR CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS. They choose to come here. And need to accept, our holidays, customs and traditions. This has nothing to do with religion including the religious holidays. We are losing our own Country and it must stop!

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Greg

9:17 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Here here!!!!!!!!!!! I agree %100 Jen

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Steven Kent

10:30 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

You're right, people should start speaking up in support of everyone's customs and traditions, not just the predominant ones. European customs and traditions aren't inherently better than any others. Many of the European customs and traditions immigrated to the USA with our forefathers. We're not losing our country, we're giving it away a piece at a time when we stop valuing all of our respective customs and traditions. German, Irish and Italian immigrants all brought their own customs and traditions that were criticized at the time, but were eventually incorporated into the American culture. Let's not rule out and condemn what other cultures can contribute to our American culture by being short sighted.

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Adam Weldai

10:49 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

@ Steven Kent - really well said! Such a good point.

jirkyrick

9:17 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

wouldn't diversity mean you celebrate holidays of all cultures so you learn about diversity, and so immigrants learn about the culture of this country? Seems like they don't want diversity and everyone becomes part of the Borg with no diversity...., you will be assimilated into the non nondescript non cultural homogeneous mix

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jirkyrick

9:19 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

not remembering or celebrating Valentines sounds like a death wish in my house LOL

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Michael Victor

9:25 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Yes and this is MA and you reap what you... Keep electing the same liberal PC politicians and what do you expect. Chances are 60 to 70% of us on here keep voting for the same people who put the judges in who empower that 3% of the population. The school administration is just trying to avoid those 3% lawsuits. That means more money for education and not for some money grubbing ambulance chasers. This is what we have come to.

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MaryLouise Torres

9:30 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I totally believe in diversity....I respect other's customs and traditions...but why can't everyone's custom's and tradition's be shared and experienced? I have no problem with my daughter learning about Hanukkah, Ramadan, Yom Kippur, Chinese New Year, etc. Valentine's Day is a day of love and friendship....why can't the kids hand out Valentine cards? If someone doesn't want their child to get a card, then they can send the teacher a message prior to the day. It's not hard to celebrate all the holidays and check with the parents to see if they want their children to participate...the school just doesn't want to make the effort. It's easier to just exclude everyone's traditions and customs and let everyone just become more and more clueless about each other. I'm sure in other countries they wouldn't stop celebrating their holidays if a foreigner chose to live or visit....they would include that person and offer to have them learn about their customs. So why when immigrants come here, they want to change everything??? If you do not want your child to participate, then keep them home or maybe the school should make the effort to occupy those students with something else while the majority (and yes, it would probably be the majority) celebrates. Oh, and by the way, at Walgreens yesterday ALL NATIONALITIES were perusing the card aisle for Valentine's Day.....and they are there for Christmas, Halloween, St. Patrick's Day and Thanksgiving...

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Mike G.

9:38 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

You think so? Try celebrating 4th of July in another country. Or Christmas/Easter in Dubai. I'm sure they love that.

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Adam Weldai

10:19 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Really well said! It's so true though, all of our cultures, customs and traditions should be shared and experienced! In big part that's what makes living in Malden so great.

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Steven Kent

10:54 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Maybe Americans and the USA should lead by example, both in our neighborhoods and throughout the world. Like I tell my kids, I'm most concerned with what YOU do, not with what others do. Do what's right and set an example for the others.

Michelle C

9:52 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

This is really pathetic. It's not about culture or religion. It's about a fun expression of friendship and love. Anyone who could possibly claim to be offended should be laughed at, not accommodated. They can opt out, but it shouldn't prevent others from having a few minutes of fun. Yet another reason on the long list of why I am SO thankful I can send my kids to an independent school.

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Annonymous

9:53 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I understand the whole cultural diversity when it comes to religious holidays. We do not it to look like we are "forcing" beliefs on children, even though that is not what is happening, some parents could misread it in that way. But loving and caring about oen another is a WORLDLY concept. It doesnt matter your religion, nationality, language, a HEART means LOVE. Bottom Line. No strings attached.

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jirkyrick

9:54 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

sounds anti diversity to me. I wonder if the new Morrocn Market in Malden is selling valentines candy? hmmmmmm

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Frank Ryan

10:05 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I suggest calling school committee members and the school department and voicing your opinion. Elected officials should listen to constituents.

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Cheryl Rivera

10:08 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

This is just pure laziness on the schools behalf . Instead of welcoming all holidays from all cultures or at least taking the the opportunity to teach and touch upon what others celebrate in other countries , let's just ingnore holidays all together, including our own and celebrate nothing. Way to go!!!! In America I thought we welcome diversity??? Well wouldn't that include there customs as well, including America's customs??? Like said , this is laziness and a way to take the easy way out by ingnoring all holidays. Isn't Valentines Day about showing Love for one another ? Does this school ban love as well or showing kindness to one another ? This was a very poor decition and it makes me sad for our kids and America.

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Mike G.

10:11 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Oh brother, the day I get my knickers in a knot over my kid not being able to give a valentine's day card to the class, I'm hoping someone will take that card, tear it up into little pieces, stuff it into a bullet and shoot me in the head with it.

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Greg

10:13 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Obviously your missing the point here.

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Mike G.

10:21 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

So what's the point? That the school can't possibly accommodate a party/tradition for 65 different cultures and languages AND teach a full academic curriculum at the same time?

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Michelle C

1:07 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

It's not that it's 100% necessary to give out Valentines, it's that it is 100% unnecessary to go out of their way to say it is not allowed. And why should the school "accommodate a party/tradition for 65 different cultures..."? It's a simple US custom that most people participate in; if you don't want to give them out, don't, but people should not be stopped if they choose to do it. And as for wasting time, it can take up as much or little time as the teachers would like. Nobody said they had to have a big bash for the whole day, but taking a few minutes at the beginning or end of day or at recess (if the public schools even allow that anymore) for the people who want to participate should not be prohibited.

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Mike G.

1:44 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

If you have a party for Valentine's Day, isn't it only fair to have a party for every other tradition/custom/holiday? Or do we only apply rules to some and not all?

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Leonardo DaVinci

4:02 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

So Mike your not against exaggerating to make your own points, is that right? Also, it's probably not the smartest idea to exaggerate about using bullets and shooting someone in the head, even if that person is you, especially when we are talking about our children and their schools. Do you think? I'm surprised they did not block that comment.

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Mike G.

4:16 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I don't think there's anything objectionable about my comment, but sorry if you don't like it. *shrug*

Steven Kent

10:14 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Why don't we take all of the "fun" things out of our children's school day and turn our schools into educational prisons. Traditions are important parts of a child's life and many holidays are far removed from their historical origin. We should be looking for ways to share cultures and traditions and celebrate the diversity of our communities, not ban them from the school environment that takes up a majority of our children's day. Most cultural traditions and holidays send out very positive social messages which, when presented fairly, can only add to the positive development of our children. Education is not about closing doors, its all about opening doors.

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Mike G.

10:23 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I am getting a huge kick out of the diversity fans here.

I'm sure nobody here gets upset that sometimes you have to press "1" for English. :)

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jirkyrick

10:46 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Are all the schools using this policy

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Greg

10:47 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Not from the sounds of it.

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Adam Weldai

10:51 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Each school is different, so without a central city-wide policy, every building principal is allowed to make his or her own rules in terms of the "social stuff" - I think the Salemwood isn't the only one, but it's the only one that sent a note home, got attention, etc. Too bad it wasn't brought up much earlier too...

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Greg

10:59 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Sorry Adam but that is not right. The schools are run by the school comittee. It's either city wide or not at all.

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Adam Weldai

11:21 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Greg, I agree with you (although some things you want to make sure you leave to building principals/superintendent, so we don't micromanage). Think of it this way though - there's never a problem until it's brought up. Something this small isn't usually escalated this much. I think a city-wide policy is a great idea, however, when the issue gets brought up a day or two before the date, not much you can get done..at least now the problem can be addressed for the future

Steven Kent

10:46 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

This topic is part of a larger discussion that is extremely important to our country's future: The Global economy and the Global Society. Our future economic success depends on US citizens and businesses becoming part of a "Global" economy, so we have expanding markets to sell US products to. If we don't start placing value on the cultures and beliefs beyond our borders, we will only end up alienating ourselves from the rest of the world. Appreciating all of our neighbors cultures and beliefs is the first step to becoming part of the Global society in which we live. We can't bury our heads in the sand and hope that it will all go away. It won't. Intolerance will only hurt us, not protect us.

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Paula Spizziri

10:58 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I would like to know more from the decision-makers about how letting the kids celebrate Valentine's Day would offend some of the kids or make them feel marginalized before I form my opinion. The article doesn't give specific information about that. Maybe if we had it, we would either understand the decision better or come up with another solution. But I agree with other posters who say that the way to promote appreciation of diversity is to share and celebrate our cultures rather than sanitize them. What do they know of England who only England know?

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Mike G.

11:23 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Everyone here is assuming that someone was offended by this. Why does it have to be that someone was offended?

Can nobody entertain the thought that the schools simply do not have time and resources to accommodate every single culture and tradition into their curriculum? If parents knew that a party was being held every other week for a different culture/religion, they'd be up in arms, I guarantee it.

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HMaz

2:25 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I agree with Mike. Having crushed candy hearts all over the floor and all the kids on a sugar high can't be the best idea for a classroom. But as for kids LOVING the holiday, really, I don't remember that at all. It was another of those forced, feel-good school moments when I was forced to write a note and give candies to kids I didn't like. And the candies don't even taste good. Meh.

Leonardo DaVinci

11:28 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Who are these other people we keep talking about? This is the United States of America. My desendents came from Italy. My childhood friends families migrated to this country from Ireland, France, England, Germany, Africa, Spain, Holland, Denmark, Poland, Greece, Russia, Sweden, etc, etc, etc. Later when my children were going to school they had friends that came from China, Japan, Korea, South and Central America, Middle East, Eastern Europe etc, etc, etc. My point is this: We came here for many different reasons but by doing so we are or will all become Americans. That is what we wanted and that is what we got. My grandparents came from Italy, my friends grandparents came from Ireland, my son's friends parents or grandparents came from East, now we are in America, we are Americans, each and everyone of us. If there is another world war, we better be fighting for America and our allies and no one else. It is and should be practical to celebrate American Holidays and customs when living in Americam, DON'T YOU THINK! On Halloween didn't all the kids want candy? So what's the problem? When in Rome do as the Romans do! In America, you are an American, so the old rule stands out loud an clear. You got what you wanted, your now American. I think most old and new Americans will agree to that because anything else is ENTIRELY IMPRACTICAL. We can't celebrate the customs of the entire world and it's not only true here but everywhere else is this world. Am I missing something?

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Malden Resident

11:34 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

From a personal perspective, I feel the Principal missed out on a valuable teaching opportunity here (as well as showed a lack of respect for the students & the families by springing this on them all the night before). I attended Malden Public Schools all my life, and was bullied through most of my enrollment. My classmates never let an opportunity go by to make sure I knew I was different, unwanted, ugly, stupid, useless, etc. BUT -- on Valentine's Day, EVERYONE in the class received Valentine's from everyone else. They were not allowed to write nasty things on the cards, or to be exclusive and only give to their friends. It was one day a year when everyone was nice to one another, when teachers turned some attention on being nice to your neighbor and on friendship and manners and equality.

30 years later, and our children are told regularly to be nice to one another, don't bully each other, do a random act of kindness -- but don't give someone a Valentine because it might offend someone?

Ms. Keenan has her own reasons for not allowing this holiday to be celebrated in her school, but I don't believe for one second it has anything to do with the various cultures of the students. Every school in Malden is made up of students from the melting pot that is our city, and from what I've seen, only Salemwood was denied this holiday. Tell us, Ms. Keenan, how many parents actively decried the holiday? How many openly said they'd be offended? I doubt it was any at all.

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Mark

11:54 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Ms Keenan is a Tyrannical tool. She's employed by the taxpayers. Time to tell the school committee to put Keenan on the unemployment line. "We welcome and celebrate our diversity"...... Bee Ess! Ms Keenan celebrates diversity like Hitler celebrated free speech!

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Elio

12:09 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Wow maybe we should stop all holiday traditions in school, erase them from the books so no one can *(&^^&$&(%^ about their religious beliefs. These people who complain have way too much time ontheir hands.

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monkey45

12:58 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Leonardo - BRAVO well said. As a christian, just look at Christmas not all traditions came from one nationality, tree, stockings, santa etc. These are our traditions, as Americans, if you don't like them don't participate.

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Kay Sarah

1:06 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I am not sure what "Malden Schools" are trying to attain. We are in a place where our children are being taught to "the Test", we don't have holiday parties, the school food is so bad that most of it is thrown out and we are considering putting our children in uniforms. If we want kids to perform at their best then we have to reward and honor them. This is not being done; the schools have a terrible sense of morale. But, seriously, canceling Valentines Day. This is probably the one day of the year that everyone tries to "play nice". I am tired of hearing that diversity means that all traditions are traded up in favor of no celebrations. Diversity means being inclusive and everyone gets to play. I thought we were getting it right in Malden and that we were honoring and appreciating all people and sharing different celebrations not omitting celebrations and giving up who we are.

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Denise

1:42 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN

Are we "SLOW LEARNERS" or what?

Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Michael Victor

2:12 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Denise how dare you... The enlightened "thought police" led by people like Mike G. will be bringing you and your backwards friends to re-education camps very soon. Roosevelt was a nativist bigot according to them.

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Tellitlikeitis

2:29 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

thank you denise for posting what president teddy roosevelt said about becoming an american,it all makes perfect sense.there is nothing hateful or racist about it.thats the way it should be for any person migrating to any country.i just can't for the life of me figure out why these people and politicians"liberals"insist on this being hateful or racist or even remotely wrong.if i moved to another country i would learn the language first of all,and i would not expect the people in that country to stop celebrating holidays that they have been celebrating for 100 or 200 years cause i do not believe in their holidays,they would laugh at me and think i was crazy if i even hinted at such a suggestion.but not here in america,we have let liberalism take over and destroy this country and our children. ABSOLUTELY SICKENING people better wake up real fast and figure out what is really happening here.

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Mike G.

2:31 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

And imagine that, I didn't even have to go to MVRCS to get enlightened, just regular old public school!

(Where, by the way, we didn't have any fruity Valentine's Day parties either)

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Mike G.

2:38 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Show me anything that I've said that supports your supposition about me, "Michael". I'm sorry that cognitive dissonance makes you so uncomfortable that you'd have to resort to using a straw man to discredit my opinion.

youarerightandiamwrong

2:40 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

We are more worried about the newcomers to our city and making sure they dont get "offended" by our American celebrations. This is America. They moved here for a better life, to be American. Whether they are Chinese American, Spanish American, Japanese American, Russian American, African American, we must not only teach them academics, but show them American Values. This has been missing for the past several years and its getting worse. I think Principal Keenan ought to rethink her strategy. Where is Superintendent DeRuosi through all this?? What a mess Malden is turning out to be. Lets start these kids young out by letting them know that they can not wish a friend Happy Birthday, Happy Valentines Day, or Merry Christmas because of the socialist approach the Principal has taken. Its terrible to think our American Traditional values are not being embraced by these young children because of Principal Keenans socialistic and liberal views. The only way Malden will be in the "top places to live" category again is if they are rated by socialism scale, liberalism scale, and avoiding American traditions scale.

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Maggie Best

2:44 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Diversity is a way of life. What are they preparing these kids for? If we don't celebrate it doesn't exist? In the real world these children will have to learn to work and live in a diverse world. It isn't fair to any child whether they believe in something or not, it is life. This principal needs a reality check. First it's Christmas, then it was Halloween, now it 's Valentine's Day. In the real world there is Christmas, Halloween, Valentines Day, Chinese New Year etc...There are people of many colors and relegions, if the children can not learn to accept diversity at an early age by understanding each others celebrations, they might never accept it which will create negative social skills later in life.

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Mike G.

2:45 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

People are still failing to read the article.

I will give $100 to anyone who shows me in the article above, exactly where it says that someone was offended by Valentine's Day and American traditions.

Let me give you guys a hint: it's not there, because nobody ever said that.

You guys are attaching the made-up notion that someone was offended by this, and the knee-jerk reaction to that is, well, just about every comment you see above this one.

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Tellitlikeitis

3:08 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

come on mike,stop the nonsense.it said that because of having 65 different cultures and beliefs that this principal does not think it wise to celebrate any holidays or birthdays.now you look at it like it would be too much to celebrate all of the 65 different cultures holidays,most of us are looking at it like,why do americans always have to give up celebrating things that we have been celebrating for 200 years cause certain immigrants refuse to adapt to our ways in our country,don't forget mike that we are all from immigrants in this country and the difference with the immigrants from 20 or 30 years and longer are that they adapted to their new country and didn' expect the new country to adapt to them.you see the problem here,all our relatives who came here decades ago assimilated themselves to the american culture because they were now americans and they taught this to the next generation and so on.but for some reason the liberals do not like this custom and are looking to distinguish it any way they can.even if it means doing it through the education of our kids.

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Mike G.

3:22 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Er, immigrants from 20-30 years ago would put them at about 1980-1990. I'd say plenty of other culture was being injected into American mainstream - in fact, those are likely the people who have kids in this particular school we're talking about.

But again, your argument is based on the premise that someone was offended and refused to adapt, but nowhere in the article does it say that.

If you seriously think that a school could get away with picking and choosing what to "celebrate" without a huge stink being caused by whomever felt slighted, you are living in a fantasy land. And if you don't think that someone would speak up if they felt slighted by this - and by 'speak up', I mean, 'get a lawyer and sue the pants off the school' - well, just remember, this is America.

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Leonardo DaVinci

6:14 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Mike let me give you a hint, it really does not matter whether or not it says that someone was offended by Valentine's Day and American traditions or not, but it certainly is implied. Besides, by this point in the discussion obviously many people are offended enough to post over 100 comments. If they feel that strongly about what has happened, that is important. It's only a knee jerk reaction if you don't understand or feel what the posters are feeling. You can disagree without declaring yourself the final word above all, can't you?

Your pseudointellectual know it all approach seems unnecessarily condescending and it's clear your putting yourself above all others in this conversation without true merit.

If it's against the law to observe such traditional days such as Valentine's Day then we can stand back, at least for now. However, where do you get that we have to compensate every country, that new Americans come from by celebrating their country of origin's holidays and traditions? This is America, is it not? We are Americans, are we not? Some people come from France but we do not celebrate the French Revolution do we? We cannot celebrate all the holidays and traditions of those Americans from other lands because it is not practical to do so. American traditional holidays should be celebrated as always and let those who came to this country to be Americans celebrate them, and if not, that is their choice. My family once came from Italy but we are now proud Americans

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Mike G.

6:32 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

"Mike let me give you a hint, it really does not matter whether or not it says that someone was offended by Valentine's Day and American traditions or not"

So, it doesn't matter what the facts are, and it's okay to manufacture outrage over something "implied"? Is that correct?

"Pseudointellectual"

You don't know me, you don't know my background, so that really has no effect on me. Your stance is weak if you need to come at me with that.

Your entire last paragraph I'm not even going to address, because once again, it's not about making observing holidays illegal, it's not about taking away traditions, and it's not about "compensating" any country. I never once said any of those things; they are red herrings.

Cheryl rivera

2:58 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I commented earlier today about this matter and I also read everyone of the comments . There are only a couple that have said that basically this is no big deal and what is all the fuss about. Not in these exact words of course . I just want to share something ......my little boy came home from school today with a paper bag full of valentine cards from all his little class mates. These class mates come from at least 4 different countries , this I know for a fact . My son was so happy and excited about the day he had. He told me how he gave out " I love you cards " to his friends and how they gave cards to him. My son told me how they made a special art project for valentines day and they even made the moms & dads little gifts . I love my little hand print gift!!!!! What did my son learn today at school ? Maybe not much as far as math or reading etc etc , but he learned and had fun at GIVING , SHARING , CARING and about LOVE FOR OTHERS. These acts of kindness or lessons will carry on forever and be pasted on to his children . So I really do think this is a big deal! I'm so very happy my little boy goes to a school that likes to celebrate special days such as today.....I love you day!

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Lynette

3:18 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Sounds like a nice day. Good for him.

JMCinLindenSq

3:13 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I just think we as America are losing our traditions and culture and who we are in this overcompensated effort to try not to "offend" anyone and " in respect of cultural diversity". I agree with others and reiterate that you don't find any other country changing their practices just because there are some among them who don't necessarily practice the same traditions, practices,etc.
it's not about disrespecting others it's about honoring our own.

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Tellitlikeitis

3:15 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

and mike it is not just about valentines day,its about everything they have banished in the public schools like christmas,easter,crosses,the wearing of any religous t-shirts,not being able to say merry christmas now without someone saying that it is politically incorrect and you should be saying happy holidays instead.come on mike even you have to take notice of all these changes in the way our children are are being taught about these holidays and beliefs that are being treated like dirt by the school systems

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Mike G.

3:25 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I know plenty of children that say "Merry Christmas", even though their teachers are not allowed (for one reason or another) to say it.

Kids will learn about the holidays no matter what - if you feel like the school has been deficient in teaching them, why not be a parent to try to teach them yourself? That's where I learned about the holidays, from my parents - not in school.

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Mike G.

3:32 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

And on that note, why does it even matter if it's not allowed in school? Does that lessen the holiday? Does that mean it's not a holiday outside of school, or outside of class?

If a teacher isn't allowed to say "Merry Christmas", does that mean Christmas got canceled that year?

Kids go to school to learn. Man, and we wonder why Americans are falling behind in just about every single academic category in the world - we're too worried about bullcrap like this.

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HMaz

3:52 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

School is not for indoctrination of beliefs. They are for learning. That's why Massachusetts schools are among the best in the country. Don't bring them down now! By the way kids are absolutely allowed to pray and say Merry Christmas - that is guaranteed by the Supreme Court - but teachers aren't allowed to make them do it, and that's a good thing.

Julia

3:25 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Call it the Day of Love, friendship, kindness and appreciation, and continue celebrating this beautiful holiday. :)

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paul surette

5:25 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Hey Julia, I have a better idea....let's call it...umm....VALETINE'S DAY!

Mike G.

3:26 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Man, this $100 is burning a hole in my pocket.

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Lynette

5:18 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Donate the $100 to Bread of Life or some other charity.

robert wilson

3:35 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

It doesn't do any good to complain about this and other things going on in our public schools, the adminitrators make the rules and even though they are public servents they ignore the complaints of the majority. Minorities rule.

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paul surette

5:25 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

As Metallica once said, Robert...."sad but true"

Alan

3:55 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Would Salemwood students benefit more from diversity by seeing it as a banquet, or by feeding them pablem?

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J.longbow

5:07 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Obviously the principal is doing it because she likes the attention...Plain and simple...Isnt it supposed to be about the kids not her!

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donna

5:12 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Maybe her feelings were hurt when she didnt get any christmas gifts.

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Steve

5:13 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

What about American culture?! The only language should be English! I lived in Costarica for 3 years they did Not learn english to understand me I learned spanish to understand them! America has become a country with no backbone out of ethnic fear! And political correctness!

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Diana

9:54 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I love that he lived in Costa Rica for three years without ever learning to spell it.

Lynette

5:15 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Apparently at 6:00 this VD story will appear as a report on WHDH Channel 7.

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J.longbow

5:15 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Isnt that a decision like the superintendent or school committee should make rather than some Principal with an agenda?

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Tellitlikeitis

5:18 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

well mike as far back as i can remember,kids were always allowed to exchange cards in school for all kinds of holidays,kids look up to teachers and believe every word they say,they are very trusting of the teachers,so when teachers tell them they are not allowed to celebrate with their classmates on holidays and birthdays but its ok to do it at home,it kind of confuses a kid,and i agree 100% that it is the parents responsibility to teach their kids the culture and holidays of their respective families.and then they go to school and are told it is not allowed here. come on mike these kids have to turn their joy off and on when it comes to being in school around holidays where you cannot celebrate and be in that holiday mood,and then they get home and they can be happy again about being an american and being able to say things like merry christmas again and being excited about the little things that kids get excited about.mike when you went to school ,were you allowed to have fun in schooland enjoy the holidays with your classmates,you telling me that you never sang happy birthday to a fellow classmate in elementary school,mike the answer is yes and that is what people are mad about,they are taking little good things like that away from the kids and it is wrong,i don't care who moved here and doesn't like it,thats what we do here and we should not have to stop it for no one cause it is not hurting any one.

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Mike G.

6:48 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

"you telling me that you never sang happy birthday to a fellow classmate in school"

No. Not one time did we ever do that in any class I was in.

J.longbow

5:18 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Exactly Lynette. She probably called all the stations so she can say why she is right and thousands of other schools wrong. Probably got her hair done this morning professionally

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paul surette

5:24 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Well, Lynette...according to your beliefs, Halloween must be a conspiracy perpetrated by the candy companies as well. And St. Patrick's Day, well, that one must be perpetrated by big alcohol, and potato growers everywhere. And last I checked, Lynette, the Hallmark Card company runs year round, so there goes YOUR theory that Valentine's Day is also perpetrated by them. How ridiculous on a whole your post was!

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Lynette

7:02 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I am off this subject after this post. You are late to the game and making assumptions about dribs and drabs of conversations and my posts. I merely took what another poster said and made a basic statement. The postings that are not supportive of diversity and not keeping american traditions are not shared by me. This world is a beautiful place with lots of space for everyone. When I made the "Hallmark Holiday" statement I was referring to what someone else said. I know better than that. As a matter of fact, I love Halloween and I have no beliefs about it other than that it is a fun holiday. So come by my house on October 31 where you will see 2 perfectly carved pumpkins and will be given LARGE SIZE, not bite size candy bars. All given with the stamp of approval by me and not Hallmark. But I hope you get some kind of sweet tonight because I think you need it. You are kind of an angry guy.

Lynette

5:32 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

LOL. I don't think so. But she might have her face obscured and her voice changed.
From these comments, things are getting pretty serious. She might even have to go into the protection program.

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paul surette

5:34 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Mike G, I graduated from Malden High back in 1982. I had ONE Hindu who graduated with me. I had 4 Vietnemese....3 Haitains....and the rest were (gasp) American. So I don't know where you can qualify your 'mainstream' statement, because I certainly didn't experience that. When I was growing up in Malden in the 70's & 80's, it was predominately Jewish, not Islamic, not Hindu, not Chinese, not anything!

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Mike G.

6:35 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Well, if you leave Malden once in awhile Paul, you realize that there's a much bigger world out there :)

paul surette

5:49 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Lynette, how about if I donate some of my disposable income to the Hallmark Card Co. While I'm at it....I might just donate to the Russel-Stover Charity as well :)

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david mokal

6:04 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

They are being toatal Jerks and worse. We had Valentines day. Just keep disconecting your kids and they will be nothin but zombies. What's a little love in school mayby showing you may have a crush on someone you like. They are sooooo stupid.All need shrinks somethin wrong with these people in charge at the school. So wonder we are going down the tubes. Idiots !!!!! Fire em they are not worthy of there jobs. This is the most dumbest Ive heard yet! Thety teachers there must be tooo FUGLY to get a box of chocolates so ya take it out on the kids.

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Lynette

6:09 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

According to the Channel 7 report the kids celebrated Friendship Day and exchanged cards outside of school. Don't shoot the messenger.

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Dan

6:22 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I wish there was a way to just take away the holiday from the kids who have parents that cry about their Valentine's Day tradition being taken away.

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M6sullys

6:30 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Complete lack of Common Sense........Even the Charter School lets the kids celebrate Valentines Day..........and their policies are one of the strictest around.

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Dan

6:32 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

If David Mokal was educated in Malden maybe it's a good thing they're are spending less time on holidays and more on writing skills.

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david mokal

6:59 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Yes I was Dan born and raised in Malden. So ya dont like my spellin blow it out ya butt.

Erika Israelson

6:34 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I teach first grade at the Ferryway and we exchanged valentines and I read a book about being kind. It was a lovely 30 minutes. Tomorrow we are making Chinese dragons and I will be reading a book about Chinese New Year. Again, I will only spend 30 minutes on this because I do teach punctuation etc. as an earlier post stated. Appreciating their classmates one day and learning about different traditions are great lessons and should be valued in my opinion. For the record, we voted on shadow or no shadow for Groundhog's day, discussed the importance of MLK, and the students were given their first home report about Obama for Presidents day. I love incorporating the holidays into our day. If we don't keep it interesting the students won't love school. I get the best results from my students who are tuned in:)

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Dan

6:38 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

We need more teachers like Erika. At least she seems enthused about her job.

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Nancy Zewiey

7:37 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Good for you. When America was a melting pot and not a salad all schools operated with your philosophy.

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J.longbow

11:57 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Im sure they only care about recess, oh and valentines day

david mokal

6:58 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Freinship Day???This is Comunism in our schools. The most rediculous crap Ive ever heard. The teachers at the Salemwood should take a good enema to clear out their brains. Wha? Salemwood goin yuppy? Politically correct? Something else just has to be taken away from the kids. I say take away the teachers holidays and vacations. See how they crybaby.

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david mokal

7:15 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Dan please get a life. The more you take away the more morons you create. I dont read stupid links sorry. Dan face it your a nobody on a blog thats all nothing else just someone who hides behind a phoney name. I laugh at morons like yourself Im bustin a gut right now laughing at you FUN !!!

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Erika Israelson

7:34 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

The superintendent left a message about friendship letters being given out at Salemwood and parents would have had more notice if we didnt have time off due to the storm.The letters sound nice so maybe it's time to move on to bigger and more important issues such as the growing class sizes in our lower grades. Kindergarten had 28 students in each class. I wish the parents would discuss that instead.

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TG

8:47 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I am sure the parents do not agree with 28 students in any class... totally not fair to any student or teacher... but what can the parents do? I brought this up on another string when they talked about building more apartment buildings... the schools are overcrowded as it is...

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cushingroadyears

12:38 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013

One of the only level headed responses.

Nancy Zewiey

7:35 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

This country has cultural traditions also. Halloween,secular Christmas observances, Valentine's day, and Memorial day are part of our cultural tradition. Birthday celebrations in school are not. A politicized school committee making bad decisions leads to stupid administrators.

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Marianne S.

7:40 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Today's "friendship celebration" reminds me of George Orwell's Animal Farm!

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Leonardo DaVinci

8:39 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Mike G from 6:32 PM, 2/14 said "It's not about compensating any country. I never said any of those things. They are a red herring-- Mike how about accommondating for the traditions and holidays of 65 different cultures. You did say that and it means the same thing as the first statement you claim you never said. Your just playing games with words

Mike G from 8:15 AM, 2/14 "65 different cultures and languages represented there" means they'd have to accomodate for the traditions and Holidays of 65 different cultures. That's a pretty significant amount of time diverted away from curriculum".

Mike G. 1:44 PM 2/14--"If you have a party for Valentine's Day, isn't it fair to have a party for every othe tradition/custom/holiday? Or do we only apply the rules to some and not all?

Mike it certainly sounds a lot like you did say what you claim you never said. If we are not observing a traditional Valentine's Day because we would have to observe the 65 different culture and languages represented there" means in your opinion isn't it fair to have a party for every other tradition/custom/holiday? Your claims don't hold up to scrutiny.

Most of us feel that all those who come to America came here to gain American citizenship and to raise their children as Americans. Why should we have to concern ourselves with the traditions, holidays, etc of other lands. Our Constitution was written for Americans. We need more more unity with new Americans not less.

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Mike G.

9:19 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Leonardo: "You did say that and it means the same thing as the first statement you claim you never said. Your just playing games with words"

As a reminder, here are the principal's words, not mine: "...to insure equity of all beliefs we are unable to acknowledge specific holidays". So the principal herself says that they can't be fair to every culture and recognize every holiday. That's not a thought I just pulled out of thin air, she says it herself.

Leonardo: "If we are not observing a traditional Valentine's Day because we would have to observe the 65 different culture and languages represented there" means in your opinion isn't it fair to have a party for every other tradition/custom/holiday?"

You're quoting me out of context. That was in response to a question right before that comment: "And why should the school 'accommodate a party/tradition for 65 different cultures'..." Also, my quote is directly derived from the principal's quote about insuring "equity of all beliefs", so it's not my opinion, it's the stance of the principal herself.

You're trying to discredit me and my stance by twisting my words around to fit your argument, claiming I'm the one playing words games, and by labeling me "pseudointellectual", a conclusion which I still don't quite know how you've come to.

Michael Victor

8:46 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

"Friendship Letters" who do they think they are fooling. Marianne S is right. Stalin and Mao couldn't have done better.

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HMaz

11:50 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Forcing parents (some very poor) to spend $30-$50 on cards and candy is so much better?

Marianne S.

9:12 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Just remember Michael, "Four legs good. Two legs better"

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Mike G.

9:30 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I wonder if Animal Farm is on the curriculum at MVRCS...

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troia

9:34 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

When my son attended pre-school, a letter was sent home stating that they where having a " Fall Fiesta" party at the school, rather than a " Halloween Party " .... I asked the teacher why they where calling it a " Fall Fiesta" party ??? crickets....... I told her that I was offended by the word " Fiesta " !! This is really getting out of hand.. If the parents do not want thier children to be a part of these holidays then keep them home from school... better yet, home school them !

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Chris Caesar

11:26 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Wait, why is "Fiesta" offensive?

Marianne S.

9:58 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I hear MVRCS has holiday celebrations aplenty, so I'm guessing Animal Farm is read there. Read and heeded. lol

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Mary

9:59 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

As a parent of a child who attended Salemwood seven years ago, and of one who attends there now, can truly say that it is unfair to blame the recent immigrant population for the principal's decision not to celebrate holidays due to diversity. Cancelling holidays did not happen under previous administrators, and it doesn't happen in any other schools in Malden. If the administrators want to teach equity, then they should acknowledge all celebrations, secular or not. I highly doubt the parents of kids at Salemwood complained. What percentage of the parents complained? America is supposedly embraces everyone including our own culture. So what happened to democracy at Salemwood?

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cheryl harrison

11:09 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I only have three words to express to Salemwood school........HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!!!!

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Diana

12:31 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

This thread is, frankly, an excellent illustration of why schools should dispense with any number of silly "celebrations" in favor of focusing on teaching literacy and coherent thought.

Also, if Valentine's Day is such a BFD, why are we all arguing on the internet instead of gettin' some?

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paul surette

11:30 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Well, Diana....WTF is wrong with some traditional celebrations in the schools? Like one lousy day is going to negatively impact a child's studies, permanently ? Really? Give me a break. I bet if you have kids, you wouldn’t let them go trick-or-treating on Halloween either, thinking that letting them go out would give Satan validation. Just because you want to behave like a Quaker, doesn't mean the rest of 'the class' does

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HMaz

11:46 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Also reading comprehension, apparently.

Maria america

1:27 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

how shameful america has become so "unamerican" in its schools, and community. what america always celebrated as All American, as apple pie....has been destroyed. ask older immigrants how they assimulated to claaing themselves AMERICANS. it waa because we learned from school and community.

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PM

6:50 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Two words - Charter Schools - the public school system is so fraught with waste and PC propoganda, the best thing we can do for the kids is to take them out of the system and put them in one where the parents (and some semblance of reasoning) have a say ...I bet Mystic Valley Charter School allows valentines

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HMaz

11:45 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Yes, please, will the parents who are more concerned about parties and candy than schoolwork please move their kids to another school.

Mike G.

7:29 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

I still have that $100. I think I'll buy up all of the Valentine's Day cards that are left over in all the stores in Malden, and then set them on fire in front of my house. I'll probably have about $50 left over after that, so I'll just use that as kindling.

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Lynette

1:42 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Today is Friday, February 15th. Yesterday was Valentine's Day. You have too much time on your hands. That money would be better spent at Bread of Life, or how about donating it to the Salemwood School for their school field trip account.

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Mike G.

2:26 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Too late, I already donated to the "Bring a Meteorite to Malden" Foundation.

;-)

paul surette

11:06 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Itellitlikeitis.....although pretty much what you said is reiterating what I said on Thursday. In Mike G's defense, all he said was some were getting 'worked up' past the point of ridiculous is all. At no point did Mike say he was pandering to anyone.

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paul surette

11:18 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but I was looking at a web link regarding the student ratios of minority students in the Salemwood. 67% of the kids who attend are eligible for the free lunch program. In 2011, the Salemwood reported a student count of 1,117. 67% were eligible for the meals. I wonder if Miss Keenan (whom I graduated with) was perhaps 'confused' her statement. Doing the math, I came out with 748 different ethnic groups (again, the 67% is HER number). I'm sorry folks, but I have a hard time buying into the portrayal by Miss Keenan that there are THAT many and different ethnic groups. We have whites, blacks, latinos, muslims, & hindus. Someone is off their rocker!

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Antoine

11:44 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

You forgot Asians somehow and we make up a pretty good number. Also I'm not sure how you're making this math at all. Also I think she is breaking cultures as countries than the super-set of groups.

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Chris Caesar

11:52 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

No, 'sixty-seven' is her number. You were the one that brought up 67% (or 748).

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jirkyrick

2:30 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

I am thinking of a number, can you guess what it is .....

jirkyrick

1:50 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

i am still in favor Valentines day panties!!!

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Mike G.

2:24 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

I think this we can all agree on.

paul surette

6:11 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Were you offended, Antoine? No Valentine's Day card for you!

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Antoine

11:09 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

I was giving a serious statement Paul. I don't see how you math adds up. The mention of Asian was a serious statement taking your listing of cultures by race (rather than nationality). Your snark is not helpful.

Concerned

10:54 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

American Traditions are disappearing and why, is it because we don’t want to offend you! Children learn in school and they learn by what they see, if we continue to take our American Traditions away as our City, State and Country have been doing then our American born children will only know America by what they read and not from experience. Folks this is an American Tradition stop trying to please all, we have to keep our American ways alive as small as this may seem to some it is a American Tradition!
Or you can continue taking our American School Traditions away and make puppets of the future America. Hey here’s an idea, continue with all of our American Traditions and show the children and families that do not agree with our ways how American children of the past celebrated American Traditions. Happy times and smiles on our children’s faces are being taken away because their parents and government officials.
Sick of reasons and excuses!

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