YOUR TURN: Where are Malden Center's Sketchiest Spots?
The Plan Malden Square project is asking residents for their help identifying streets, areas or neighborhoods they avoid at night in Malden Square.
Everyone has felt at least a little unsafe walking alone at night at some point or another - but is there a part of Malden Center that just really gives you the creeps?
Members of the Plan Malden Square group are asking Patch readers for their help identifying problematic nighttime spots in the city's downtown. The group's Nighttime Safety Team will incorporate your suggestions and concerns as they continue to draft their proposal.
When commenting, organizers asked that readers:
- Be specific in sharing areas/routes/spots they perceive as unsafe or purposefully avoid, but remember the study concerns the greater Malden Square area.
- Is the problem new? Has the area become better or worse over the past few years?
- Feel free to include proposed solutions, including better lighting, more police officers, etc.
Anyone with specific questions about the project can visit the site's Facebook page, or contact them at planmaldensquare@gmail.com.
What do you think? Are there any places in Malden Square that just give you the creeps? Share your answer with organizers and neighbors below.
Ben A
6:58 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
This is gonna be a hum dinga.
Mike G.
9:10 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Hahaha! Ben beat me to it.
Alethia B.
8:10 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Pleasant Street after dark, don't want to walk alone!
Also, Charles Street behind Stop and Shop.
Junebug
2:34 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
Defintly I think that It would give me the chills. When I walk there all you see are shady people with the ankle braclets on!!! Very creepy!
Ann
8:46 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Malden Station, on it's West Side, facing the parking lot, Maplewood Square anytime after dark, Ferry St. towards Malden Square after dark, Oak Grove Station after 9 PM, particulary the Banks Place side & parking lot, Trafton Park area after 9 or 10 pm.
Bobby James
8:57 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Maplewood Sq after dark? Really?
Phe
1:18 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Is Maplewood Square by the center? Because I know it takes me about 20 minutes to walk home at night from the T up Salem St. and through Maplewood...and that's the one place I have never had any problems at all. Huh.
Marie
8:03 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Canal St after dark. Also, Ann, I agree with you about Malden Station facing the parking lot. Yesterday at 12:25 in the afternoon I had a problem at that side of the station. Because I have bad lungs I asked 2 females to put out their cigarettes. A male smoker came & stuck up for them. They refused to stop smoking. even when a T employee asked them to stop. They called me a f'in bitch & an old hag. It wasn't until the T police came & told them to leave me alone & also informed them there is a $100 fine if they want to smoke at any T property.
DannyBoy
9:07 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Marie, I've seen people smoke on T platforms, and no T personnel was there to tell them to stop doing that. Enforcement is a joke, if they were really serious about it, they could make boatloads of money out of dishing out fines.
Ben A
8:52 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Does Malden have a good relationship with the MBTA? Could the MBTA have their police force handle their train stations?
Bobby James
8:58 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
The Transit Police are supposed to handle everything in and around their stations, they also have jurisdiction along bus routes and the routes the trains go.
Problem is - they're never in Malden and the MPD is forced to deal with any calls at Malden Station. Calls made regarding Oak Grove are sent to both Malden & Melrose.
Diana
9:12 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
I feel like Malden Station is generally awash in Transit Police in the morning and early afternoon, and bereft of them at night. Kinda reminds you that they mostly exist to chase down fare evaders.
FMM
8:59 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Elm street pharmarcy and cedar street very sketchy.
Dana Roberts
10:03 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Elmwood :) ...I live on Cedar and I avoid that place like the plague
moxie
9:21 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Funny, but not...I went to Blaine (now Empire), at night. The common reference for Elmwood was "Hey, walk down to the Dirty Store with me?". Kind of says it all.
jirkyrick
9:01 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
stop and shop, i get robbed every time I go in there hahahahaha
Chris Caesar
12:25 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
http://instantrimshot.com/
Iwanttostinkfingerdiane
10:08 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
The government building that sits at the top of malden square. It is the most dangerous place in all of the city. So many people working without a brain.
In all seriousness have a cop patrol the square during the same hours the train runs. I bet most of the mugging that occur in that area are from someone hopping on the train. Crime must be much lower in hours the train Isn't running. (time being the obvious reason as well)
david mokal
1:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
You want to what with Diane??? Man You are Nasty. What a name.
ken
7:27 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
The trains run from 5am to 1am. That's 20 hours a day so I think you may be on to something and most of the crimes occur when the trains are running. Thanks for the input.
Elio
10:16 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Right in front of City Hall and down to police station, it looks sike a scene from the walking dead.
Mike G.
10:46 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
That entire section of Pleasant Street where Government Center blocks the street off is pretty sketchy.
Dana Roberts
11:00 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
yeah that walk thru to Florance St needs better or new lighting, I don't like going thru the courtyard and THAT'S right next to the MPD
Diana
12:25 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
It really is. You'd think sketchy suspicious types would avoid the police station, but it turns out not so much.
Phe
1:19 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Diana, I always found that vaguely amusing too. People smacked out, passed out in front of the PD. Well, hey. A bench is a bench I guess.
Chris Caesar
1:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
An old boss of mine once said he saw some guys smoking marijuana in front of the police station. That surprised me, even decriminalized as it is.
Greg
2:50 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
@Chris. And old boss told you this? When did he not become your boss? Yesterday? It goes on everyday on the plaza, as well as the hypodermic needles being found, as well as the public drinking, oh and then there's the two or three times a day call for a drunk or a junkie in the bathroom at City Hall.
Chris Caesar
3:48 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
I think that's an obvious exaggeration.
HMaz
2:23 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
My daughter was threatened and had her bag & ipod grabbed right in front of the police station. When we reported it they at first did not believe us.
AppleBottom02148
11:12 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Bellrock Park at night, Charles St at night, Pleasant St at night, Pearl St at night, Cross St by the Lincoln Commons at night, Salem St between Maplewood Sq and High Scool at night, Walgreens and Stop & Shop at night, Beach St and Lynn St at night. Malden, is really NOT a goid place at night. I am starting to feel uncomfortable even in broad day light.
Andrew25
11:32 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
We could be here all day. Why don't we do the shorter list... What part of Malden is not sketchy?
Mike G.
11:54 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
"remember the study concerns the greater Malden Square area."
Andrew25
1:01 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
There's definately no parts of Malden Center that aren't sketchy. There's four places to dump stolen goods on pleasant st alone
jirkyrick
1:11 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
those place are called bargain stores in Malden parlace
Chris Caesar
1:15 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Oh come on. When people say that it makes me wonder how many sketchy places they've actually been. Pleasant Street is just not that bad. Other areas in Malden Center, especially as people start walking home from the T stop, I could see being sketchy.
Andrew25
1:44 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Chris, just in case you didn't know its mostly criminals and drug addicts that use those stores. There's a reason they have to send a list of their new"inventory" to the police every week. And of course I've been to sketchier places. I like sketchy places. I just don't want to live in one near the top of the list.
Do you actually live in Malden?
Chris Caesar
1:47 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I am familiar with how those stores work, I was referring to your comment that "There's definately no parts of Malden Center that aren't sketchy."
And yes, I live in Malden, not that I would need to to realize the tenuousness of that blanket statement.
Andrew25
1:52 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
So what part of Malden center would you feel comfortable letting your mother walk around, alone at night?
Chris Caesar
1:59 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I don't make those kind of decisions for my mother - she walks where she wants (Hi Mom!).
Seriously though, I would not be nervous at all if she walked the distance of Pleasant Street at night. It's well-lit, there are people around and I can't recall much violent crime happening on that street. Maybe I am forgetting something, but I don't think so. Plenty of people walk that street everyday...
Andrew25
5:23 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I would think if someone is found dead on a street it has the possibility to end up on the sketchy list
Chris Caesar
5:25 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
The DA hasn't released any more info about the death, which, at this point, strongly suggests there was nothing suspicious about it (i.e. a medical issue).
Marco
12:18 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
All around the train station at night. Definitely the courtyard next to the police station and City Hall. Not saying I personally feel worried about getting jumped or robbed, but it is really dim and anyone can hide behind the wall when you are coming up the ramp from Malden Station. That whole end of Malden Sq is really dark and sketchy.
de
12:41 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Malden is bad as brockton
Chris Caesar
12:56 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Brockton's 2011 violent crime rate was about 3x Malden's, so I don't think that's fair.
robert wilson
12:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Anywhere in Malden after two AM.
david mokal
1:46 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Chri,Brockton is a bigger city. Besides I dont care about any city it's Malden thats the issue. Everyone should feel the same It's all about Malden. Brockton at one time was farmland and industry been there many times. This is a good example it got over run with drugs. We are not far behind if we let Malden go. Like what happened to Brockton is no one cared to speak out. Just no one cared.
Chris Caesar
1:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
David, I know Brockton is bigger but the "violent crime rate" takes that into account - it's the ratio of violent crimes to the number of people living in the city (i.e. how many crimes per 100,000 people). I'm just saying Malden is nowhere near that.
Bob TB
2:55 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Brockton is shy of 100000 people with about 190 cops. I don't feel that the cities Malden is compared to now are very flattering. How many cops do we have?
Chris Caesar
5:38 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Just to be clear, I wasn't making the comparison.
Phe
12:54 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Pleasant Street at night, especially around the police station...but really, the whole street is sketchy at night. I'd rather walk in Maplewood Square after dark any night - and I do. Have yet to have an issue there.
Maggie Best
12:56 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
City Hall area, Exchange St and Pleasant St. along with the T station. That whole section could use brighter lights.
Brian
12:58 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
What's wrong with people in Malden?
I grew up in Hartford, CT and there are parts there that are like 10 times more DANGEROUS than any part of little ol' Malden.
If we want to be specific and say places that have little lighting or police presence:
-Pleasant and Exchange Streets
-Charles Street
-Woolcott and Clark Streets (off of Salem St)
-Eastern Ave.
-Forest St.
Bob TB
2:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
This is the Malden Patch not the Hartford Patch. People have concerns with where they live and raise their families. That's a good thing and shouldn't be made fun of.
david mokal
1:28 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Bellrock Square and Judson Square The rest Im fine with. Its like Clint Eastwood walkin thru town and bad guy's peepin out the windows. Steppin out of the doorways watching..n peeping...n watchin some more till you pass thru. Creepy.
Kim Brookes
1:39 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I'm fine with Pleasant Street itself at night. From the T, though, I'd go up Exchange and then turn up one of those other streets to completely avoid the Government Center left and right sides.
I'm find with Cedar after dark. Anywhere I go after dark, I remember this is an urban area: I don't walk with headphones, I stay aware of who's around me and what I'm passing. If I suddenly feel uncomfortable, I move to a different street. It's life in the city. The same was true after dark growing up in Lincoln, Nebraska, with much wider streets, and a very low crime rate in the neighborhoods.
Elio
1:42 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Any dark corridor inside city hall at any given time.
david mokal
2:44 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
LOL Geesh you'll get grabbed by the Taxman ! lol
robert wilson
1:56 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Until you've worked at night in Grove Hall or South End you don't know scetchy areas, sure, Malden has it's areas but it's still not all that bad.
Bob TB
2:51 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
The difference is people moved here because this once was a proud city and then Malden became what it is today. This city needs help and the mayor and city council better do what is right for the people of Malden. We shall see what happens for his next pick to see if he is serious about fixing what's wrong here.
Chris Caesar
5:51 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Well there have been a lot of high-profile crimes over the past year, crime has been going down in the city and nationally over the past 20 years.
de
3:17 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Seriously people are listing area after area they think are sketchy. Sad it's not one area it's the whole city
Anita
5:50 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
.If the T had their transit police patrol the station until the service ends, maybe that would help. Checking bags in the morning, really? Then maybe Malden police could patrol all of Pleasant St, Salem Street, side streets off Lebanon sundown to sun up. The whole
area is questionable and sketchy, at night and now during the day. Brighter street lighting, monitored big brother cameras are a start.
Bobby James
9:23 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
"side streets off Lebanon sundown to sun up. The whole
area is questionable and sketchy,"
I live on one of these side streets off of Lebanon. Trying to figure out what's so sketchy. I walk around the area EVERY SINGLE NIGHT and can not figure out what you're talking about. If you think Maplewood Sq is sketchy you must think Malden Station is the combat zone and Roxbury is Afghanistan... smh...
Mike G.
9:26 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
^^ this
Mike G.
6:10 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Oh, brother.
Mary Kehoe
9:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I use to feel safe in Malden, use to love walking my dog at dusk in the summer, felt quite safe, not so much any more, it's a shame but I won't walk once it gets dark, won't even sit in my back yard on a warm summer night anymore, not since I was woken by these very loud noises, not realizing what it was (still in a sleep fog)'ran outside heard someone yelling , saw a person laying on the ground, only than did I realize it was gun shots that had woken me. Gun shots in my neighborhood, trying to call 911, and than to find out my house was hit with bullets, my car still has a hole in it from a stray bullet. Why ? Still don't know. What's been done? NOTHING absolutely NOTHING!!!!!
david mokal
11:03 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I feel bad Mary that happened to you. Its no joke and it will hang with for a long time. I got 2 dogs here and like you I always walked them at night. Now they will shoot you and your dogs is what it will come down to. I got a Belgian Shepard coming down from Maine so with 3 bigguns I stand a chance. I love to walk at night the latter the better. Im doing that again walking late at night. I know what your going through and hope you can learn to try to get back to normal. In the past the city has done nothing just sit on their fat asses not caring. Lets hope the new Mayor can clean this up somehow.
de
10:07 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Mary that is scary, glad you're ok
Mary Kehoe
10:13 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Thank you de,
david mokal
11:06 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
God Bless you Mary I know if you can talk to other victims it will help alot.
Mary Kehoe
11:38 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
David thank you so much, But I wasn't the victim, I was just a person who was awaken by the shots and ran outside. .
troia
12:25 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
The bus stop at Linden Square any time during the day or night, , its like a scene from the Children of the corn.....
fivekids5
6:04 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
I would normally be out walking at 6:00 am on a Saturday morning I live in Linden, for the past year I know that it is just not safe enough anymore to do that.
paul surette
8:11 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Mr. Mokal....as soon as I whip out a nice Porterhouse for those dogs, it's game over. Dogs worship steak more than their masters :)
david mokal
7:24 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Yes Paul and they will love you for it and then they will throw me under the bus THX lol
de
9:20 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Albion have you called the cops or contacted the school athletic director. That might help
Jolie Dawson
12:31 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
I go to MHS and have friends on the track team, so that information is kind of worrisome to me, but what really bothered me about that comment is that it's proof that even in a place as diverse as Malden, ignorant racism is still veeeery present in our community.
Chris Caesar
1:26 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Agreed.
Jolie Dawson
12:39 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
I mean, how does one "look Muslim?" By definition, Muslim means "a follower of the church of Islam." If you go by that, I "look" Muslim, and I'm white, a non-stereotypically characteristic of someone who identifies as Muslim. Not the point of this article, but when discussing the issue of safety in Malden, let's keep racism out of it.
Chris Caesar
1:27 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Comments removed for outright racist nonsense. Stick to the topic at hand, guys.
paul surette
2:11 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
That's it....no Valentine's cards for the Muslims!
Greg
3:07 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Yet another intelligent remark from Paul. I really don't know why Patch puts up with you?
paul surette
3:50 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Clearly (except to you) Greg, you didn't get the reference to the Salemwood thing. My bad! I should have given you a coloring book with some pop-up pictures :)
Greg
4:19 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Yes Paul I got your reference. As pointless as it was for this conversation. And extremely ignorant as well. But we have become used to it here on Patch.
Greg
3:06 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Not for not nothing people. But most of the viloent crimes in this City are not centered around the square. Not that I am down playing the crime that does go on in the square. But the crimes in our City are a lot more wide spreaad, unfortunately.
Lynette
5:15 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Gee, reading this thread is not very good PR for the City of Malden. Maybe this issue should have never reached the Patch, and been handled privately. It's scary.
What types of dangerous situations are we talking about? Junkies holding people up?
Armed robberies? Seems like quite a few people seem so down and out. But what happens when the weather gets warmer. How much mayhem will there be. I am putting Malden on notice with it's issues. And maybe it will be three strikes and they are out. Maybe I will give the city only three incidents that make the news and I might have to question living here. And I am not one to run and hide. Seems like people are just getting fed up with things.
Greg
5:22 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
The three strikes law doesn't even work in the courts. So it's not going to mattrer to the city.
Gving the city three more chances to make the news? Seriously? There haven't already been enough (and a lot more that should have made the news), but wether it makes the news or not, it get's swept under the rug.
Mike G.
5:25 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
I'm sure there's a fair amount of hyperbole here. Lots of times, it seems like there's a race to see whose story can be worse than the last.
Greg
5:27 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Ok??
Mike G.
5:30 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Just my opinion, that's all.
Bill M
5:21 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
This forum!
paul surette
5:38 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Greg, I have to tell you....as Dennis Miller said recently, "I no longer care about the clueless people!" Write that down, Greg, because he was referring to people like you. And before you mock me again, how about working on your spelling techniques. Maybe then I could take you more serious. You shall not get any more attention from me, sir!
Greg
5:46 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Paul. If you don't want to give me anymore of your attention. Thats's fine with me, I usually don't pay much attention to what yuo post anyway.
I mispelled word's to make a point. That's what you do best here, try and play English teacher.
I'm also one of the most "clued in" people on this site regarding the City.
Mike G.
2:39 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Greg, tell us about how you're "clued in".
paul surette
5:40 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Mike G....I think my first brew of the spring season will be Ipswich Ale. I have all the ingredients, ready to go. Yay for me!
Mike G.
6:05 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Very nice! IPA, or something a little darker?
Chris Caesar
2:13 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
No bigotry on the comments section. I'll look into these complaints but what is "Muslim-looking" exactly? There are white, black, Middle Eastern, etc. Muslims and none of them really look alike to me. Just please be mindful. Thanks.
paul surette
2:49 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Mike, Ipswich does call for 1 pound of crystal malt, but the malt of choice is light. Crystal does give it the sweetness and color. As far as the alcohol content goes, it averages about 5.4%. (at least that's what my hydrometer tells me). I finally killed off my last case of my Oktoberfest. I was a happy camper with that batch :) Note: Most of your IPA's run in the 6-7% alcohol range.
Mike G.
3:37 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
How big is your brewing rig? Is that too personal?
I'm not too familiar with the brewing side, but I'm an expert beer drinker.
Bobby James
9:27 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
A pound of Crystal? Eeesh. I'd rather up the color with some Munich of Vienna and give it a solid malt backbone instead of all that residual sweetness...
And Founders finally released All Day IPA to MA - 4.7% IPA.
de
10:45 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Paul you must have no life if all you can do is sit and critique people's spelling or how they post. Be respectful
paul surette
5:51 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
de, you missed a period after the word 'respectful'. :)
paul surette
5:54 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Mike, the most I can make in one batch is 5.5 gallons, which is two cases of beer. I have two kits here, hence I usually have two batches going. I used to do all-grain, but space limitations here, and you usually need a good size burner for that.
Lori
3:40 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
Clearly the question posed should have been " where ISN'T there a sketchy spot in Malden.
Bruce
5:13 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
I actually got mugged on walnut st. accross from the Ferryway School a little over a year ago, luckily all they got was $45.
de
12:41 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Hope you were ok Bruce!
Lucy Cosentino
12:24 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
I think that Exchange Street could use more lighting,,,,,I found a couple of shady characters milling around outside the new Cuban restaurant, Oya'..... I got a bit nervous,,,,I was born and raised in Malden. Lived there for 40 yrs., and moved toStoneham several years ago. Malden will always be my hometown..The square is a bit scary after dark between Sparks and City Hall.. Maybe better lighting? My mother still lives in the Forestdale area....I am afraid to walk down Forest Street after dark,,,more lighting,,,? I think that the more illuminated an area is, the less chance of violence, robberies, etc..... I am still proud to say I am from Malden. I appreciate the diverse city that it has become~~~~ Lucy
Mike G.
8:09 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
I agree that bright LED lighting in Malden Square would help things a lot.
For what it's worth, I feel that Forest St. is very safe; I walk along Forest St. very often at night with no problems.
Lucy Cosentino
12:28 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
I am aware that a crime can be committed in broad daylight,,,,,,,,I just think that shedding more light on problem areas in the evening could eliminate a lot of the riff raff,,,,,,
paul surette
10:17 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
I used to live on Forest St. up until 2007. I never had a problem.
kell
11:36 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
linda from lowell sucks
kell
11:39 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
pearl st. boy is selling drugs that kill but no one does anything about that cops dont listen
Tracy
1:05 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
From all these opinions it appears the title is incorrect, it should read Does anyone know of some safe spots in and around the whole city of Malden.
Greg
1:10 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
LOL. It would have been shorter list, tha's for sure.