Should Malden Raise Taxes for a New Fire Station?
Should Malden pursue a temporary property tax increase to finance building a new fire station on the east side of town?
Last week, the City Council voted to form a committee charged with finding possible locations for a new east side fire station. The envisioned facility would replace the Maplewood Station on Laurel Street, which Fire Chief Michael Murphy closed last month due to health concerns for the firefighters who worked there.
The council also touched on the idea of a debt exclusion to pay for a possible new station. Under Proposition 2 ½, cities and towns in Massachusetts cannot increase the total property tax levy by more than 2.5 percent unless the public votes to do so. An override would be a permanent increase to the tax levy, while a debt exclusion would increase taxes for a specified period, and then come off the tax rate once over.
The council and mayor would have to approve putting the measure on the ballot, and the voters would have to approve the debt exclusion before taxes could be raised.
For this week’s You Said It, we want to know: Would you support a temporary tax increase to build a new east side fire station? Tell us what you think in the comments below or upload your own video response.
Rick O'Shea
7:24 pm on Monday, May 9, 2011
The very vague terms “specified period” and “temporary tax” with no specific amount, time-frame or requirements make this almost a rhetorical question. There is insufficient information provided to come up with an answer.
Joe Gray
8:48 pm on Monday, May 9, 2011
No. We already have million$ in missing additional revenue after the last audit. We can't manage the accounting now and we're going to pile on to the residents a new tax with no oversight on how the money gets spent?
We were told a lot of things already. There is no confidence that new taxes will solve anything. Fix the management first. Restore confidence. Accomplish something first. Many taxes and fees have been imposed on residents of Malden in the last few years with nothing concrete to show for any of it.
John Q
9:53 am on Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Mr Ox, sound like you maybe a jaded firefighter? anyways, if we could find out who stole the weather vane of the top of the fire station we could sell it and start the new building fund with the proceeds. We need to see the security camera video to find out who the culprit is, Mr Kinnon, lets see the tapes!!! We could charge a small fee to view the video and put that in the fund too!!! NO NEW TAXEsssssssss! This is one tax that will never'go away". Now, back to the video.......
Marc Levine
9:10 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Hey John it's me again. I feel your passion for the history of the City of Malden. But as I said before the city should of removed the weathervane before they sold it to the current owners. Your comment on the flower topic has def opened my eyes to your side of the story. But it's not the current owners fault nor anybody who works for them. Take care John.
Erik Royds
12:27 pm on Tuesday, May 10, 2011
If a crime is committed and called into the Police, they open an investigation which includes detectives requesting relevant video from adjacent properties.
I don't want my elected city officials to chase shooters, run lab tests and thwart car thieves. I want them to GOVERN OUR CITY!
Does anyone have a link to the police blotter or story that called out the crime?
Marc Levine
11:37 pm on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
YES. ASAP.
Marc Levine
8:22 am on Thursday, May 12, 2011
who cares what the fire fighters are wearing (unless it is for a ceremony or parade) as long ast hey get to mu buring house as fast as they can. you should thank them everyday. who knows when the call may come in which one of could loose their life or be hurt, also.....if the weather vane was stolen it should be returned to it's rightful owner (that would be who ever owns the building)
Marc Levine
8:24 am on Thursday, May 12, 2011
next time i make a comment I should wear my glasses. "mu" "ast" lol
Bobby James
8:49 am on Thursday, May 12, 2011
Are any of these people property owners in Malden? I'd say that should be qualifier #1 for asking them this question.
David Hart
8:47 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
Mr. James you are 100% correct in asking, if in fact anyone asked is a property owner paying taxes to the City of Malden. Malden Patch that should have been the first question you asked.
As far as paying more in taxes to build the fire station I am as a tax payer in the City of Malden against it.
Just lilke the trash bags the citizens are not getting the full story.
Joe Gray
8:13 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
City Hall 05/17/2011 @ 6PM
Finance Committee will meet to discuss authorizing the Treasurer to *Borrow* $5.5million to renovate South Broadway Park.
Are you kidding me? We need a Maplewood firestation more than another Maplewood park right now. What are councillors Nestor and Kinnon thinking? How are we going to pay back these additional *borrowed* funds?
Marc Levine
8:56 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
It is dangerous not having an Eastside firestation. Def raise taxes to pay for it. As long as when it is paid for the tax stops.
Marc Levine
9:02 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
While we are on the blue trash bags.....I have mixed feelings about them. Sure I do not like spending the cash on the bags, but it sure encourages me to recycle more. I asked a pal who lives in Melrose what he thought about the bags. He said he would rather have the blue bags because he lives alone and recycles. He owns a 2 fam house and pays $400.00 a year for trash pick up. Food for thought that's all.
Joe Gray
1:00 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
At the last council hearing I was at, couple weeks back, councillors admitted that recycling had skyrocketed. But the implication seemed to trickle out of them that revenue to the city was on a steady downward slide as more and more residents found other means to eliminate their trash. The impression was that the city was starting to lose money on the blue bag program.
Unintended consequences....
Marc Levine
1:09 am on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Sorry to hear that Joe. So what now???
Joe Gray
7:11 am on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Admittedly, I don't know. My eyes just keep opening more and more as I spend time actually listening to what is happening in city hall hearings.
The press releases from the newspapers come late and without much of the nuances of what happens during council hearings.
We're divided. We're not coming together on anything. Same few people, like me, just complaining. I don't know what's next. I'm open to ideas.
Joe Gray
8:35 am on Wednesday, July 20, 2011
Does anyone know who is funding all the apparent renovations on the old Maplewood firestation? Lots of contractors crawling all over that building, inside and out, lately.
Just wondering.
Marc Levine
5:21 pm on Wednesday, July 20, 2011
It only make sense to fix the building up. I guess the charter school will use it for themselves. On a related issue. I lease a building from a company and "I" am responsible for any repairs the building needs. Maybe before people point fingers at charter school for not keeping the building up they should get their facts straight first. I assume the school is fixing it up for themselves. I hope so, it's a beautiful building and it would of been a shame to tear it down.
Rick O'Shea
9:58 pm on Wednesday, July 20, 2011
"Joe Gray: Ok. If it isn't taxpayer subsidized, that's fine."
Where do you think the MVCS gets it's money?
Joe Gray
10:30 pm on Wednesday, July 20, 2011
Thanks for the info Rick. I understand. I wasn't aware. I hope to get more information over time.
Rick O'Shea
10:42 pm on Wednesday, July 20, 2011
I completely understand since in the grand scheme of things it is a relatively new type of entity.
["Me: ...gets *it's*... " Maybe I can work on my grammar too :-) ]
Marc Levine
10:10 pm on Wednesday, July 20, 2011
Hey Michael it looks like they are doing the roof over and I don't think much has been done inside yet. Everytime I walk by I poke my head in there. Would love to know how much it is really going to cost to do rehab it. Think it will be the millions that somebody estimated it would cost back in May. Doubt it. That roofer is doing a great job looks awesome. Hey Rick O'Shea the charter school gets their money from the cities that send their kids there. I'm sure if the charter school is using the building for it's own use the def need the space. I think they are a little over crowded. It should be interesting to see what becomes of it..
Rick O'Shea
10:57 pm on Wednesday, July 20, 2011
The taxpayer funding is broader than just those cities. From their website:
“Charter schools are tuition-free public schools of choice financed through local, state and federal funds,..”
Marc Levine
11:33 pm on Wednesday, July 20, 2011
Correct Rick. (your last comment) You sound like a bitter man. Yes my grammer is not the greatest.
Marc Levine
11:50 pm on Thursday, July 21, 2011
Hey the piece of land is on the market in back of Maria's Pizza. Awesome place for fire staion. Sorry folks ahead of time for any bad grammer I used.
Joe Gray
6:52 am on Friday, July 22, 2011
Awesome idea! Unused, available land is great. Who is making the final call on this? Does anyone know where the issue stands?
Marc Levine
7:21 am on Friday, July 22, 2011
maybe go to a city council meeting and when the floor opens up to the public let them know. I'm not sure how to market this land ot the city.
Joe Gray
7:40 am on Friday, July 22, 2011
The city council? Someone else must be working on this. I'm under the impression that the council is on Summer vacation through September. I guess this isn't too important to whoever is in charge.
Marc Levine
1:38 pm on Friday, July 22, 2011
So Mike the weathervane was never stolen. The current owners of the building are in fact the owners of the weathervane, Right?. Maybe if the "patchers" hear it from you they will stop with their zany stories about what happend to it.