DA Releases Photos, Video of Skateshop Murder Suspects, Asks for Help
The Middlesex District Attorney has released video footage and still camera shots of suspects believed to be involved in the fatal Main Street shooting of Shawn Clark last month.
The Middlesex District Attorney’s Office, Malden Police and State Police are asking for the public's help in identifying suspects seen in surveillance footage during a fatal shooting at the Patriot Skateboards shop last month.
Shawn Clark, the store's owner, was found fatally wounded there on January 29.
Authorities have been quiet about details of the attack; these are the first, few details that have been released to the public since the day of the shooting.
"Authorities ask that the public’s attention be drawn, in particular, to the size of the suspects, their facial and bodily appearances, their gait, and the clothing that they are wearing," the press release reads.
"Authorities are trying to identify two males who are depicted on the video surveillance tapes and still photos taking part in the incident, who appear to be dark skinned males, wearing dark clothing, one of whom was armed with a handgun," it later concludes.
Both men are seen in the footage wearing black jackets and hoods over their faces.
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"One of those suspects is reported to be approximately more than 6 feet tall, the other between approximately 5 feet 10 inches to 6 feet tall.
"Following a confrontation between the store owner, Shawn Clark, and the 2 suspects inside the store, the victim was shot multiple times on the sidewalk just outside the front door of the store.
"The suspects fled on foot, down Edmund Street."
Anyone with information is encouraged to contact Massachusetts State Police at 781-897-6600 or Malden Police at (781) 397-7171.
Jeannie Callinan
8:02 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
The more I watch the sicker I feel .Please share the photos please & please find these two murders there is a reward for any information
Lynette
8:29 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Yes, those pictures are so sad and depressing, How can anyone accost someone, knowing they will kill them and just walk away. I know they will be caught.
Jeannie Callinan
8:40 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I hope they are found soon!!
Justice for Shawn Clark. We have waited so long, I pray it ends soon . They need to be caught and taken Off the Streets before they Kill AGIAN ....RIP Shawn Clark
david mokal
9:39 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I watched the video and the first one who walks in seems to have a limp?
candy torres
8:46 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I notice that too....I kepted on rewatching it over and over again, and he most likely has a problem with his rt foot. It looks as if he's walking to the side while the other is going straight.
Joe Mattick
1:04 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Humm... Skateboarders limp because one leg gets stronger than the other and they injure themselves all the time. Think about it!
Jaided
10:31 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Please share this with everyone you know. Spread it around Facebook and Twitter. Someone knows these criminals. There is a reward being offered for their capture. Please help just Justice for Shawn and the entire Clark Family!
david mokal
2:04 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
My eyes are peeled for sure.
Robert Winn
10:53 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
To mean it looks like first person through the door has a crooked right foot,a little detail like this is gonna out these scumbags
david mokal
2:07 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Yes me too like it had been broken at one time or its hurt from a break in escaping and hurting it over a fence or something.
Mike G.
11:05 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Man, these guys knew exactly what they were doing. I hope they get caught and taken off the streets.
david mokal
2:10 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
To me mike the way they walked in like they knew what he had in the register or a safe. If there was any large sums he kept these guys knew him. They are walking in like they own the place.
paul surette
5:37 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Of course they knew him. Way more likely they hung around that store. And getting shot as many times as he did, that seems personal! I don't know where the people that were on Channel 5 yesterday talking about what a great place it was, but I experienced different. Quite a few scumbags frequented there.
J.longbow
11:52 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Wiggums will get his man....burp
Jaided
7:11 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Sadly, it is very clear that they had every intention of committing a crime when they walked into that store. I can't say what Crime they planned of course, but if you look at all the pictures, they were wearing latex gloves, which they had on before they entered the store. Thus... planned and First Degree. One has a very distinct walk. Someone knows these criminals, and I hope and pray they come forward ASAP.
Lynette
7:34 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Scary? Isn't it? Both wearing two distinctive purple jackets. Gang? or just coincidental?
This happened during the middle of the day. How do two guys wearing either white or latex gloves not be noticed (Now I see their hands were in their pockets) And one looks like he is wearing a ski mask. It was cold that day, but not that cold. I also wonder if they walked into another store and found it too busy? Although their walk is so purposeful, as if they know what they want.
jirkyrick
8:52 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
It was planned, and everyone will be shocked and horrified when the details come out,
Alan BISHOP
7:15 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The only first degree anything would be robbery..........the killing was probably not part of their plan.
Alethia B.
8:34 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
The whole thing just chills me to the bones.
And what makes it even more disturbing is that these two thugs are walking among us on the streets every day, sitting on a bus or a train right beside us.
They need to be caught and severely punished; you cannot simply take another human’s life and go own with your own like nothing happened.
How does these “heartless” pigs sleep at night knowing that two children lost their father?
Maria
8:48 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Death penalty should be for people who want take another human being life in the state of Ma. But i hope and pray that they catch these suspects.
Liana Rogue
8:56 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I heard the car drove away most likely on Clifton street? Is that true? Maybe someone on Clifton with surveillance security can check their tapes for license plates around that time?
jirkyrick
9:13 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
You don't think the cops are not already doing this?
Liana Rogue
9:34 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I don't think the cops know about every private citizen who has a security system installed in their homes since B+E in the west end is about as common as breathing...
Tony H.
10:15 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
jirkyrick, if the cops had done this, I would know about it. They haven't contacted me and I have a property that, if it had video security, would have captured a car going down Clifton.
jirkyrick
10:30 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
@Tony, so do you have a security camera that captured the car, if so why didn't you tell the police, I am sure chief Wiggums would have welcomed your evidence.
I am not a cop, I am willing to bet they have already done the obviuos and have already contacted all the business owners in the area about the external video cameras that the car would have passed. Investigation 101 don't you think
Chris Caesar
11:45 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I think you need to read that again, Jirkyrick
jirkyrick
11:50 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
yep, he said if he did have a camera, my bad, anyway I stand by the comment I strongly suspect the police have contacted all the businesses in the area to look at their vids
Golfer
9:33 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Nobody decides to just walk into a skate shop and kill the owner. I don't think he had a lot of cash on hand from selling skateboards on a snowy day. These people knew each other for some reason. Anonymous violence like this is rare. Godspeed to the Malden Detective Squad.
jirkyrick
9:49 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
yep, I have a feeling people are going to feel duped if the details are ever released
Alethia B.
10:16 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I do not want to “assume” anything or speculate however the worst case scenario of drugs or money being at the heart of this killing, no one ever deserves to be murdered.
My neighbor thinks it sounds like a “personal” hit, which sadly enough would give the public a bit of reassurance that people aren’t just going around killing people at random in Malden.
Mike G.
10:27 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Ricky, what do you think happened?
That's a serious question, that's not meant to be adversarial or aggressive in the least.
jirkyrick
10:35 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I think the same as the other skeptcs here, ad the same I have said about a lot of "Store front Retail" businesses in Malden. I don't see how you make a living and pay the rent and utilities and get a paycheck when there are never any customers in your store. Seems to reason something else may be going on other than selling a few skateboard parts to a few teenagers a week, same with the restaurants/dollar store, pawn shops/bodegas etc that populate the square. Who knows. maybe I am wrong, I am not a law enforcement professional, I don't even watch CSI, but sometimes things just seem pretty obvious don't you think
Mike G.
12:38 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I'm not sure, Ricky. I can imagine that there were a good portion of online sales; Mr. Clark seemed savvy enough to take advantage of Internet sales, but honestly, I have no clue. I just wanted to know what you were thinking, thanks for clarifying!
jirkyrick
1:06 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Look, I am not a criminal, but from the looks of the pics, these gang bangers don't seem the skateboarding type, so I doubt the robbery was about getting free boards and parts. so going out on a limb and with the popular group think, they where out to score easy money.
Lets see, look right a liquor store with lots of cash, look left, another liquor store and a convenience store, a gas station with convenience store , all probably with a good amount of cash sales before noon. These knuckle heads decide to rob a skateboard store with what , maybe a 50 cash sale before noon, if even that...hmmm that just don't seem right, even if I was the dumbest gang banger on the planet
And if I was a store owner, would i just give them the 50 dollars or risk getting shot over 50 dollars
Something just does not add up no matter how you look it at it, but you are all free to draw your own conclusions, i feel comfortable with mine and time will tell ..... maybe
Mike G.
1:36 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Ricky, I wasn't attacking you, no need to defend yourself to me. I was just curious where you were coming from.
jirkyrick
1:41 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
no problem Mike, I was just proviidng the logic of why I agree with a few other posters here. My real point is there seems to be a number of "storefronts" with hardly a visitor, but maybe they are just offering the really popular Kennebunkport style of Zumba clases ;)
paul surette
5:40 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Shooting someone 4 times in the stomach isn't personal, golfer? Sure sounds like it is to me.
Alan BISHOP
7:19 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
@Golfer......they probably shot him because he was beating the snot out of them. I don't think that they banked on going into a skate shop in Malden and encountering a combat marine...........Oh, and, the State Police investigate murders in MA, the Malden Police assist them.
kevin lucey
10:14 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Is there a description of the vehicle ?
Liana Rogue
10:46 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
It now says "suspects fled on food down Edmund Street" so who knows, maybe they took the orange line like all the other ghetto criminals that hit up Malden.
Andy.L
1:01 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I know someone lives at that street and he said he saw a white BMW fled the scene afterwards.
Chris Caesar
12:07 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Andy, did they tell the police?
Andy.L
12:08 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
yea, but he didn't see the license plate and not sure if that vehicle is involved.
Dislike ignorant
10:53 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Well Rick, if you're not a law enforcement professional then maybe you should leave the investigating and speculation to those who are. Ever hear assuming makes an ass of you and me. Not trying to start here at all, but regardless of anything, no human has the right to take another human beings life. And leave 2 young kids without a father. Do you know them? Do you know they were taking home pay checks every month? Do you do inventory for the shop or know about any of their finances? If you do then my apologies in advance. But I'm guessing the answer is no. You're just another person looking to make a story out of a tragedy.
jirkyrick
11:01 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
i see lots of crimes, I see lots of businesses that never have customers in the store, do the math... just saying. Like golfer above said, how much cash could a skate board shop have on hand in the middle of winter, Not looking to make a story, just pointing out what may be an obvious source of crime in the city in general. How do you suppose all the stores in Malden with no customers in them are making money,. asking you
jirkyrick
1:35 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
true enough, he may have been getting a check from the government, but if I was running a storefront, with hardly a customer, that would be a money losing venture, which if I where running would close. And if was getting lots of sales online, that would not be cash sales, so there goes the theory of lots of cash on hand from the first hour sales of that day. But thats just me
Julie Meara
2:15 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Thank you.
Countrymouse
11:52 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I personally didn't know the man or his family, my son had spoken to him on several occasions and several of his friends knew him well. They all say he was a great guy, treated them respectful and not like loser teenagers. Society has made us think the worst of someone instead of thinking that maybe he received money from the USMC or maybe his wife had a career that supported their family and his dream. It doesn't have to be drugs, money owed or whatever everyone thinks it is...and if it was he still did not deserve what went down. Two young boys are left without a father and his wife with out a husband; the focus right now should be on finding these two men and making them pay for taking a life. If a criminal has no regard for their own life, which they obviously do not; then why would they care if they take someone else's...these criminals should receive the death penalty once they are caught and I believe they will be caught. My thoughts and prayers to his family.
Julie Meara
2:33 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Thank you for a touch of sanity. As a friend of the family jirkyrick & some others are so offensive and out of line it's clear why one would hide behind a fake name. Shame on him. He needs to get a life.
de
12:30 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I am glad my kids don't walk the streets in malden. It's little Brockton at its best. I feel bad for those children, its hard enough when you lose a parent, but as a child to know your parent was murdered is worse.
Concerned
1:09 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
When watching the videos look closely at the coats, were they wearing bullet proof vest under the coats? I say yes. Just my opinion.
We should have posters showing these scumbags posted around the city and maybe even a mailing to all residents.
Alan BISHOP
7:26 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
@Concerned, if you can see bullet proof vests in that grainy, pixelated video, then you should work for the FBI...........or take some aspirin for that overactive imagination.
david mokal
2:19 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
In some States you can Register your Camera with the police and they kept it in their data base. This is what we should be doing.
david mokal
2:50 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Darn it ok everyone see if you see what I do/ Ready? First one limps the second one left leg is weak watch it drop right before the counter. Why Just Maybe these guys are skateboarders and have hurt themselves in serious falls. They Knew him . Keep watching the entrance right before the counter. I bet Shawn went after them cause he recognised them. Whatcha think? The second suspect left leg dips rear shot on cam. They may have known him from the Saugus store and came from Lynn.I want to note that Im not being a detective so plz no bashing. Im am using a magnifing glass to pick this out.
Lynette
5:10 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Ok-I was intrigued enough with your post to look at some things myself. Firstly let me say that I am hoping no one in his family is reading these posts. It must be hard to see the pictures and videos as well as read all of this speculation. However these guys seem to have a purpose in coming into the store. There is no hesitation and they walk right up to him like they have something to talk about. I do see something that resembles a Dunkin Donuts cup and a movement of a hand which leads me to believe the guy is sitting right at the desk. These guys are so brazen. Because the victim was shot outside, he probably decided to throw them out of the store and then things went wrong. So sad. Doesn't matter what the issue was. Bad guys never seem to ask questions.
Dazz
4:08 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I bet shawn did know them and probably told them to eat S*^! and thats why they shot him four times.This was his business that he worked hard to start so I dont want to hear he was dirty cause thats not the truth.Focus on the task at hand he is gone and his kids are fatherless,and there are two muderer thugs (limping )the streets right now and someone knows these fools and they will be caught!
jirkyrick
4:14 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
you may be right , but if you are, what do you think the motive was for the robbery / assault
Dazz
4:49 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I dunno what they were thinking but i know shawn wasnt going to just give them his hard earned$$. I also could be wrong maybe they have been around from another city and figured it was a quick buck kinda deal.I also think think the outfits were just that outfits bought to wear for the crime and thats it.not gang colors
Liana Rogue
4:24 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Why are they wearing matching purple jackets? Is that their robbing outfits? Are they siblings or a uniform for something else? Have similar crimes been committed in purple jackets? Are those jackets or vests? I'm blind and can't tell? Is it purple or black? I mean I don't see a lot of dudes in purple parka jackets? Shouldn't people be on the look out for that?
jirkyrick
4:29 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Big Fans of Prince?
david mokal
4:45 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
They are purple. Both are the same.
Mike G.
4:46 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Are they Newsies?
Liana Rogue
4:50 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
If you look at the outside video, it looks like hoodies instead of jackets and one looks red and one looks black.
Also these dudes didn't even cover up their faces!
Store owners, clean your cameras so the footage could be clearer!
david mokal
4:59 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
On the back of the purple jacket there is a crease of some sort on both rear shots at the waiste line. Would this be a brand of jacket sort of like a North Face? Also notice how the second one walks using his toes. I walk like a duck myself but his left toe is being used to walk. Also the crease on the jacket at the waiste line is pronounced like a game bag on hunting jackets. I used to use ADOBE Elements if anyone has it try clearing this picture. I took mine out ,
Melissa Ryan
4:46 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Did they walk away with money?? So sad Shawn was a great man,i went to school with him in Somerville,i hope they catch these SOBs,they dont look very old, look closely
Dazz
4:52 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
so did I his mom used to cut my hair..Kennedy kids for ever!!
david mokal
6:57 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Me too Melissa so young with a family.
Dazz
4:56 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I cant tell if they have limps or its the gansta lean like they were walking in like they thought they were badass ..both of them in the video are walking funny.im not trying to be funny.
david mokal
5:01 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Well lets all use our puters and find out what clubs or schools wear purple jackets?
david mokal
5:04 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
LYNN ENGLISH BULLDOGS wears close to puple.
de
5:05 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I doubt it was a random act, you don't wear matching outfits and gloves and just randomly rob a store, especially a skateboard shop in the winter. Maybe a gas station.
Joe Mattick
1:08 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I am on the same page De, It wasn't random, It was skateboard business as usual.
Melissa Ryan
5:21 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
The last photo of the.one running out looks like a female,she is tall and thin,
david mokal
7:02 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Melisa, after looking at the Northface Jacket site the female jackets are plentifull in womans only in the same shade of purple. That though was in my mind as well. Men walk like ducks but women most wearing heels alot tend to walk with there toes first even in regular shoes. You could be right.
david mokal
5:35 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
FOOTLOCKER has that Jacket. These guys are not pro's Pro's are in and out these are punks. Tried Noth Face simular but not in mens only ladies. In the exit pic the sneaker is reflective. Foot Locker again maybe. I bet they shop at Sqaure One Footlocker and like many young people come from Lynn.
david mokal
12:09 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I looked up Skateboard Apparell came to one site Tilly's. Purple Jackets listed their as well. Lots are very expensive.
david mokal
7:04 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I was just looking at the Dunkin Donut attempted Robbery at 980.Eastern Ave on the MPH you tube. Now that looks to me as the same foot twisting out. We need more opinions on this.
jirkyrick
7:57 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
They where robbing the store ghangnam style
Joe Mattick
1:01 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Not Funny- this is serious
Paula Ellis
8:10 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
why isn't this posted on Malden PD's you tube?
J.longbow
8:25 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Because its on the patch....derrrrr
Golfer
8:08 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Paul, when I said that "Anonymous crimes like this are rare", I really meant to say annonymous crime is rarer than crimes committed by people who are familiar with each other.
To all:
Friendly, patriotic, great Dads can still be up to no good in some way. The pressure of running a small business that sells luxury items to teens must surely be really hard. Just because someone is a Marine does not make them a saint for life. There are Marines in jail for heinous crimes and they didn't have PTSD, because they never left the U.S. They worked in the motor pool. There are gloriously magnificent Marines, average law abiding Marines, and scumbag Marines. Just like everyone else on the planet. I love and greatly respect the first two types obviously.
If I owned a retail business, I would be exercising my concealed carry option at all times. If this crime was extortion, it probably wasn't a first attempt, and it would not be by anonymous individuals. This isn't Law and Order or Criminal Minds. When someone comes to kill you, it is probably because a situation is at a desperate ends.
west meff
9:27 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
When will we wake up and realize it's our drug laws that cause this senseless violence?
Joe Mattick
1:01 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Drug Laws! The criminals want us to legalize drugs so they can rule. We need to take back our city!
Dazz
10:45 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Hey Golfer unless you knew Shawn which obviously you didnt you have no grounds to assume it was over drugs ..your comment doesnt belong up here go preach that $H%) to your state rep or gov!! when the truth comes out it will just be two losers who killed for what was suppose to be a quick buck but Shawn wouldnt give !!
david mokal
11:03 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Maybe it might have been a delivery of new skateboards coming in and he had money to pay for the shipment and accessories. These guys knew and knew him. They must have known he was a former Marine as well and thats why they did what they did cause he recognised them. Everyone in Clftondale in Saugus said he was a great guy and never any problems. My daughter told me her next door neighbor had coffee with him that morning.
west meff
10:55 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Yeah cause Skateshops are really the place to rob.... these are young kids, not some strung out heroin addict looking for a quick dollar...
A marine/small buisness owner was murdered in cold blood, you really think the media/police/ect would ignore this if the details weren't all drug related? Lets get real.... if this were a random act of violence the police and media would be all over this....
I'm not taking anything away from the guy my heart goes out to his family and his private life is his private life. Just realize drug laws are to blame for this senseless murder. It's 2013 time to evolve.
Chris Caesar
12:09 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
In fairness no details of the crime have been released to the public at all, aside from a confirmation that the shooting occurred and a description above.
Alan BISHOP
7:35 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
@west meff......who's ignoring it? Did you have an interview with Gerry Leone? The state police investigate murders, not the malden police. While Malden may assist, the state police lead all murder investigations except for Boston's and Worcester's. How do you know the robbers are young kids? Lots of supposition and inuendo......what do you do for a living actually? Also, I don't place much credibility in people who post theory without posting their real names...........just saying!
LoveOneAnother
11:00 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Yes. Shawn's family reads this stuff. And you people really need to have some consideration for the victim and his family. This is a murder...for whatever reason. A murder. Maybe a "story" to most of you...but to some of us...it is a life-altering event that we will never quite "get over". I encourage you to go to the police if you know something about who may have murdered this 39 year old man. And I also encourage you to stop speculating and drawing conclusions based on assumptions in a PUBLIC FORUM...about people you don't even know when several families are grieving a loved one and the killer(s) are still at large. Thank you for your consideration.
Joe Mattick
12:59 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I bet it was an owner of a different skateboard shop. Think about it! People who own and manage skateboard shops aren't the most non-violent people?
Diana
2:17 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Did a skateboarder run over your puppy or something?
Mike G.
1:40 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
This is a fascinating thread of amateur detectives.
Joe Mattick
2:13 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
What are you trying to say mike. Are you saying that we don't really know. It is amazing how many Hippys there are in this town.
Diana
2:23 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Not speaking for Mike, but I'm saying that if you do know what happened you should go to the police, and if you're just spewing conspiracy theories, well... you should know that there are very effective medications available for paranoid schizophrenia.
Also, "hippies," although I have no idea what the relevance is.
Joe Mattick
2:26 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
well Diana i am not a "Hippie" so I wouldn't know how to spell it. And NO I don't know who did it; but come on- IT WAS A SKATEBOARD SHOP!
Diana
2:30 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
See... you say that like it makes sense, but it's actually crazy.
Did a six-fingered skateboarder kill your father?
Mike G.
2:44 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
It was the One-Armed Skater.
jirkyrick
3:13 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The owls are not what they seem
paul surette
6:28 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I have to agree, Mike....smiling :)
jirkyrick
2:16 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Not being a detective myself. but there seems to be something obviuos every one is missing. Judging from the Purple Outfits, I think its those darn Andleman Brothers, they lost their talk show on 96.9 and they did not sell enough Phantom Gourmet gift cards and needed extra cash
Joe Mattick
2:19 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
@jirkyrick, what are you saying? are you crazy?
jirkyrick
2:35 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I am pretty sure that nobody here is going to be telling the police anything they don't already know regarding the motives for this robbery. They where inside the skate shop after the shooting and know what is going on, unless you can ID the purple perps, you won't be telling them anything they don't already know. The details will be made public after they catch the shooters most likely
LoveOneAnother
3:54 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The description said "dark clothing". I don't know where all this purple is coming from. On the way in...one jacket looked red. Then it looked black. Then it seemed purple. I think different cameras are picking up different pigments of color depending on the light. So all this "purple" is not FACT. The police said "dark colored clothing". The police also said 2 males. Is anyone interested in keeping an eye out for these dangerous people? Or are you interested in spreading controversy and b.s. and speculating on motive? Be part of the solution and keep an eye out for the suspects. If you can HELP...call the police. Some of you are like sharks in feeding frenzy with all this nonsense. This was a father of 2. A husband. A son. An honorably discharged Marine. And a friend....to many....have some repsect...for the living AND the dead. This is an unsolved murder. These individuals are out and about. If you care enough to post about it, care enough to have some sensitivity for the people who grieve Shawn. Keep your eyes and ears open and if you have information about the suspects go to the police. Please. PLEASE. I believe strongly in freedom of speech, but I also think there is room for TACT and knowing when to shut your mouth. He had a family, you know. He had friends. People loved him. People are hurting. Some of you are fanning flames and throwing salt in our wounds. Knock it off. It's not a joke and it's not funny and it's not fair.
LoveOneAnother
4:08 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
"Pending approval"? Oh. So this nonsense has all been "approved" before it was posted? Jokes? About a murder? Passed approval? Despicable.
LoveOneAnother
4:11 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
or maybe i was flagged as inappropriate? for asking for tact and respect? can somebody tell me how this works?
jirkyrick
4:22 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Your post is live. Sometimes it takes a little bit .... You are correct though, all the surmising about motives.... The police already know that . There where plenty of witnesses that where at the store , including the regulars. The goal is to catch the perps and the details will come out later , for better or worse
Chris Caesar
11:03 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Yes, Jirkyrick is right, I haven't been pre-approving comments on here, it's just a glitch on the site sometimes. It looks like all your comments have posted now.
jirkyrick
4:34 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Being guilty of the "jokes" I just want to say , I am not meaning to make light of the tragedy of this murder,no matter what the circumstances are or end up being, most of the so called jokes are aimed at silly posts and not about Shawn's death. I am sure the police will have these guys soon enough
Mindy Studley
5:12 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I knew Shawn and I created some stories when I heard this...in my own imagination, of course...common human response ...but in reality this man has been MURDERED by people who didn't give a fat rats ass about life..AT ALL...and they need to be brought in to answer to their slimy, disgusting, absolutley self gratifying behavior...whatever their motive was...but it is very important to remember those that loved him and respect them...respect his wife his children his mother his friends respect them all...murder creates paranoia as far as I can tell...most people don't have to deal with with it and I find that it brings fear...keep the fear at bay and keep the faith that these scumbags will be taken care of prior to meeting their personal maker....because we know they will get what they deserve...one way or another
david mokal
7:47 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
http://www.myfoxboston.com/video?clipId=8372892&autoStart=true These guys look alike ya think?
Dennis Medina
7:51 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Such BS. My brother was a "real skater" and a straight A student. He scored a 33 on his ACT and if you saw him you would think he was some trouble making punk. People like you are the reason Shawn surrounded himself with these kids. The killers were thugs. Their walk and demeanor gives them away.
paul surette
6:08 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Dennis, I wasn't aware thugs walked in a particular manner. Why didn't Patch inform us of this. Maybe I shouldn't ride the T anymore, because EVERYONE on the T walks like a 'thug' as you put it. Thank you for the awareness. What would Patch do without your mediocre contribution. God bless you, sir!
Liana Rogue
8:23 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
It makes me sad that some of the most ignorant here are my neighbors =(
I guess if someone doesn't fit into the normal stereotype of a cube droid they must be a scumbag and criminal and a loser because sadly as adults some of you haven't grown up yet to realize there's more to people than just quick judgement you make based on appearance.
SL
9:12 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Can we stop with the speculation and remember that Shawn was the victim. That Shawn's family and friends lost a good man. That Shawn has two children and I don't need to tell you that children are pretty damn good on the internet and even if they don't see it, their friends may. I understand that it may make you feel better to make this more than it is, maybe it makes you feel safer. The only way you will be safer is with these two off of the street. If you know something, contact the police. If you don't, pray that someone who does makes the decision to do the right thing. Anything else is unnecessary and truly harmful and disrespectful to the Shawn and his family.
Kay Stack
10:05 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I agree!
villen 617
9:22 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
i did no shawn and for all the negative comments you should all be a shamed of your selves a man is dead kids are fatherless and a wife is a young widow just for a second put your self in ther shoes and see how funny it is r-i-p- shawn and lets hope justice is served or these scumbags get thers villen style gone but not forgotton
Golfer
10:05 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Alan Bishop, PI, you have a credential in retail theft from Bunker Hill Community College. More than I do, so please elaborate on how you think there are eight cameras.
To the family,
I apologize for the accusations I made earlier and any pain I may have caused. Innocent until proven guilty, I must remember that. Family and friends, reading a comment board cannot be much solace overall. Please advise against.
Chris Caesar,
What are the Patche's benefits of having a basically open forum if it hurts victims? Readership? Please enlighten me, I am not a paid journalist.
I am just a frustrated Malden resident who cannot wait to leave this town. I have met many awesome, wholesome people in this town, but may the T is both a blessing and a curse as criminal blight spreads.
Sorry to all the Friends of the Victim I Offended.
Dennis Medina
10:25 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I don't hide behind Semper Fi, Golfer.. I'm done going back and forth on here. Those of you that didn't know Shawn can say what you like. I knew the man and know what his values were. I also know that had it been someone else gunned down in that neighborhood that he would have done everything possible to help find the people responsible.
Dennis Medina
11:12 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
No need to justify my statement. If you are the type that speculates on a public forum and in the process defame the name of an honorable man, you need to be put in your place.
Dennis Medina
11:16 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I will admit that my statement was a little harsh. If you knew how far off the negative comments are, you would be ashamed.
Steve
11:23 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
As a friend of Shawn I understand what you said Dennis. I have been trying my best to hold back comments like that. But I myself have been close to posting very similar things.
Golfer and all the folks I'm not sure you actually realize how much you sharing your inaccurate assumptions is actually impacting those of us who knew this man.
As if we aren't already sick enough with everything that is going on. We don't need any of this.
Golfer
11:26 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Okay Dennis, truce. I apologized to the family for my comments earlier, we all got too emotional. I will not post again. I hope that all honor is restored and godspeed to the Malden Detective Squad and the Mass. State Police. I hope your are right. Sorry, I rarely do this. My heroes have always been the U.S. Armed Forces. I did not serve, but I was the first to register in my town when I was 18. I have family members who saw combat and I have the utmost respect for all who did. I am not a Republicant or a Tea Bagger, I am a Constitutional Libetarian. Good luck to you and your family. Sorry for being harsh.
Golfer
11:35 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Dennis, again I went too far. My boss of 23 years was a Marine. If he knew you were in the right he would defend you to the end. If he though you were wrong, he would x down your neck. I respect loyalt. I hope you are right about this tragic mystery. May God bless this Nation.
paul surette
5:57 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
To Alan BISHOP: I work in the medical field, and my name is PAUL SURETTE. Look my name up on Facebook. I'm also on the Malden High School Class of 1982 page of FACEBOOK. Have your emotional needs been met by my declaration? You happy now, you dolt!
Mike G.
12:16 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
How long until Caesar pimps out the Malden Patch Facebook page? ;-)
paul surette
6:31 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
"It's amazing how many people can't spell HIPPIES in this town!" And you're welcome, Joe Mattick :)
fred
9:05 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Chris, I want to thank you for allowing the posts from Steve and Dennis. Their language is real. Those guys are veterans and served our country. They are expressing their anger towards some of our posters and those POS gang members, how could you question them?
I can only hope that when those POS gang members are found, they receive justice from Shawn's gang ( THE USMC) and not some liberal judge.
david mokal
9:14 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
How do you know they are Vetrans? Marines DO NOT TEll you to stick a gun in your mouth. These guys are loosers. Where did you find out they are Marines "The Internet"? If they are so concerned why are they not out in the malls and looking for these guys. Their phoneys. They just want to talk trash. Typical Facebook Refugees.
Chris Caesar
9:51 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
The comments were not allowed, because of swearing and other related issues. The user has been suspended.
Chris Caesar
11:01 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Sorry Fred, I know you probably didn't mean it this way but posts talking about vigilante justice can get me in very hot water. Please feel free to re-post your comment without that last part; I hope that makes sense.
fred
12:21 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
no problem. Chris, I forgot what I posted anyway
david mokal
9:09 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Paul this is all full of liars and fairy tales. A true Marine would not have told you that Like Facebook its all about people who try to be something they are not or cant be. They live in a box and can't get out except through the computer. Pay no mind. Life is too short to deal with this crap. Im not in Facebook cause if no one wanted to talk to me in 5th grade whay do they want to talk now? lol Im in the phone book and so is my addy and also Skype with multiple cams. For all we know these guys could be the shooters.
Dennis Medina
12:53 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
David, I am indeed a former Marine and a current member of the Minnesota Army National Guard with a total of 12 years protecting your right to make false accusations.
paul surette
4:27 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Well David, I know Mr. Medina's remarks weren't directed at me. I have a pretty thick skin when it comes to the internet, as well in my personal life. I just expect that everyone else be held to the same standard that I am.
Dennis Medina
9:21 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I don't think I actually used much profanity Paul. I said what needed to be said. I never comment on public post because most people are too ignorant to be taken seriously. However, when I see numerous threads making speculations and accusations based on absolutely no facts, it kind of gets to me. Wait to the facts come out and then debate the reasons why this took place. One thing I can tell is that Shawn wasn't in it for the money. He loved skateboarding and hated the publics view of its culture. He felt discriminated against and wrongly accused many times growing up. If you knew his morals and the things he tried instilling in the kids he encountered you would be astonished. Malden lost a great mentor and a Great American. The skateboarders are misunderstood and falsely classified as a bad bunch. Every group/organization has its bad apples, but overall the kids just want to be allowed to be themselves.
MC
11:49 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Well put.
Dennis Medina
9:24 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
David, I'm a veteran, trust that.
Chris Caesar
9:53 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Well now you are suspended, isn't that interesting.
david mokal
1:13 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Well if you are dont tell anyone to put a gun in their mouth. Marines would not do that. Further more you need not protect my rights the constitution does that. Dennis I dont have to trust anything you say.This is the internet. Full of Liars and Lil Trolls. I too worked for the Navy Yard Building ships and Landing craft to keep your butt from being killed.You came on With rotten Mouth and telling someone to put a muzzle in his mouth. Thats not a Vetran.
Chris Caesar
9:53 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Also if your comments quoted the swears in question I will have to remove them as well.
paul surette
4:35 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I understand. I'm fine with that. I did it to get your attention. I have emailed you in the past with no response, so that is why I chose to do what I did.
jirkyrick
10:17 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
George Carlin would be so soooo happy right now. Lol
jirkyrick
10:22 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
speaking of prohibited lanquage, i was wathcing ABC on Thursday, the "Disney owned channel during family hour prime time". I can't count the number of the times they used the term MILF, some girl was even wearing a t shirt with the term printed in large letters across the front. I don't think Disney knows what the F at the end stands for... Mom I'd Like Friend? Anyway can we use "F" in place of naughty words, Disney can? MwahahHaha. Now I am going cook me a nice batch of tater teets
Chris Caesar
10:33 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Big Carlin fan myself, and I try to be pretty lax about moderating swears (because hey, it's how people talk). But F-Bombs are going to get ME in trouble and I can't let that go.
jirkyrick
10:37 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Who put the F in bomb de de bomb de bomb de f bomb.... I hear yah Chris
fred
10:30 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Hope it wasn't Paul who got the ax.
Chris Caesar
10:34 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Certainly not; I just had to delete his comment because he quoted the problematic comments. Paul is just too cute to ban.
jirkyrick
10:47 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Double rat farts
fred
10:49 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Cute and racist.
Semper Fi
10:35 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
So someone can slander the character of a slain member of your community, but when someone comes in and defends him they get suspended? I am so glad I don't live in Malden.
Chris Caesar
10:58 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I don't see any slander on the page, which is of course not allowed. Granted it is a pretty huge thread right now, so if you see something problematic, feel free to email me at malden@patch.com
MC
11:51 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
That does seem to be the way here, very sad.
Pixie
12:33 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
I agree Semper Fi, Not one of these MORONS has given any thought to the fact that a member of the victims family may be reading all of this bs. How do you think that feel to them. I feel sorry for the wife and family of Shawn. YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.
fred
10:45 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
My friends life does not represent all Marines. He is doing fine now. They are not quire boys, but they deserve respect. Shawn gave his life to our country. (HERO) I don't care what he did, right or wrong, he was unarmed and shot down. If this sort of crime is happening in Malden, where are we safe. WE need justice
jirkyrick
10:47 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I don't think anyone directly slandered him, they are speculating on motive due to the oddity of robbing that shop when there where 3 way more lucrative targets next door that would have had plenty of cash. Again, people don't need to focus on the motive really, the cops already know all that they need to know regarding that and that will come out soon enough, the goal is to catch the murderers.
Pixie
12:37 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
I agree with Semper Fi,
Not one of these MORONS has given any thought to the fact that a member of the victims family may be reading all of this bs. How do you think that feel to them. I feel sorry for the wife and family of Shawn. YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.
Chris Caesar
10:49 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Guys, can we have a quick gut check please?
I am really loathe to close a comments section on an article, so I am really trying to avoid it. However: please remember that this man had family in the area and they definitely all read these articles and comments. Everyone is free to express an opinion, even uncomfortable ones in an episode like this, but please try to exercise some tact.
Pixie
12:36 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
I wonder if they would like, these things being said about their family member that was just brutally murdered.
Chris Caesar
11:07 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Since I can't be on the site 24 hours a day, I encourage anyone that sees problematic comments to contact me directly at Malden@patch.com and alert me, so I can remove them.
david mokal
11:08 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Good Move Chris its about recognising these guys. Ok Cris the Jackets they are wearing is skateboard apparell. Look up Tilly's at the North Shore Mall sells all kinds of skateboards and apparell complete and purple. I bet these guys come from Lynn. Ive seen these Jackets before not many wear them. I frequent 3 malls Square One,Meadow Glen, and times North Shore. They must have cams there. Lets all focus on these pictures like we should. If more see the same then its real.
jeff
11:10 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
The first man in is the tallest he is wearing a hoodie not a jacket and its red not purple if you watch the video in the start when they're outside walking in its red and inside the store looks purple. the second to enter the store is shorter and wearing a dark vest over a hoodie if you look at the photo its like a polo wind puff vest over a striped hoodie or shirt. They are both black and male.
Alan BISHOP
11:26 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Folks, The MSP have confirmed that the jackets are BLACK.............not red, not purple. The colors that everyone is seeing is caused by time-lapsed video, and color cameras adjusting to light. The DA's post say, "Dark jackets" if the jackets were purple or red, these colors would have been clearly described in the blurb.
Mike G.
12:19 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Jesus, and still with the amateur detective work. Let's put the homemade CSI kits away and let the police do their job.
david mokal
1:04 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Mike sometimes something can be seen by someone who is not a policeman. Nothin wrong with helping. Many people said purple but Alan says Darker. No one is trying to be detective here Mike. I hope the Family is reading this it could give them thoughts of someone they have encountered. So Mike if this bothers you Ill not throw in my towell and Forget about it. Your right let the cops figure it out. Im Done. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Mike G.
1:07 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Like Chris said, we're free to express opinions, I'm expressing mine, you're free to do whatever you want.
paul surette
4:37 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Ha ha ha ha
Chris Caesar
5:11 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Paul how many comments of yours have I moderated? One? It's getting a little old.
broadway Jay
5:11 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I'm probably one of the more despised persons on this Patch Community.. But folks be mindful that there are 2 kids looking out the window, waiting for their father to return.. We are all humans, and I'm assuming adults.. Whatever the circumstances, we should be more dignified and respectful for this Father and fellow man !!
Mike G.
6:05 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Are you kidding me, Broadway Jay is a legend
paul surette
5:55 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
You must be in a bad mood or something, Chris. All I said was I have emailed you in the past with no response. That's why I paraphrased. I'm not bashing you. You really need to go to Starbucks or something :)
paul surette
5:58 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
You're right, Jay. And I don't think you're despised here, at least not by me. You tell it like it is, just like I do. I never sugar coat anything here, so no one has to worry about developing diabetes over my posts. I always tell people when they ask me a question regarding a touchy subject..."do you want the truth, or what you want to hear?"
jirkyrick
6:05 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
This is beginning to sound like a little girls soap opera
Diana
6:26 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
More like a sleepover.
I'm so ugly! Everyone hates me!
No, you're super-pretty! And everyone really likes you! Everyone says so!
No, YOU'RE the pretty one!
No, YOU!!!
Diana
6:28 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Girls, girls... you're ALL pretty.
broadway Jay
6:37 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Oh Blarney Diana... Less we forget: Your comments amount to nothing more than intellectual poverty.. I'd expect nothing more from the Digital Guläg !! #gigglesnorting
Diana
6:40 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
It's "lest." And I take it back You have bad breath and ugly nailbeds. :)
david mokal
3:24 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I seen Diana's picture on Facebook and she is super pretty.
Andrew25
2:28 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
I must have missed my FB friend request from Diana:(
de
7:40 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Broadway is correct, those two boys wouldn't want to see these comments, and Diana they are like watching an episode of TMZ gossip
Steve
10:08 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Despite how young
Steve
10:13 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Despite how young his kids are, their actually both great with computers. There's a good chance they've seen everything on here, you should all be ashamed.
Oh and Chris great job only moderating comments left by people who knew this man. A good moderator would have deleted the majority if posts on this.
There's no need to make unnecessary comments about a man under the ground unable to defend himself. At this point these things are irrelevant, repost this if you can't identify these guys repost this link so someone can.
MC
11:27 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Thank you Steve.
Chris Caesar
1:27 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Well the only people to encourage others to commit suicide or use the F-Word were those that happened to be those who knew Shawn. As you can see, any comment they left that was not violating our terms of service remains, and he still comments. I just can't go around deleting people's opinions, no matter how despicable people may find them.
paul surette
12:04 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Yes, I want to thank you as well. Thank you for almost making a point, then completely invalidating it by dropping the F bomb. Well done, sir!
Chris Caesar
1:28 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Paul gets it.
Semper Fi
12:48 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Steve, This thread has been infested with people who seem to be slightly on the slow side, if you know what I mean. Not one of them has actually ever met Shawn, but somehow seem to know so much about him. I gave up early this afternoon debating with the few who pissed me off the most. My day started to get better as I surrounded myself with people who value the freedom which Shawn helped provide. With that said, I recommend that you log off this site and ignore the ignorance of the majority of its faithful followers. I posted a link to this site on my page so that my Marine brothers can browse and see how the memory of one of our brothers is being tainted by some of our fellow Americans. Good night all. Tomorrow comes another day for me to recruit future veterans for you to spit on.
paul surette
3:33 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Like clockwork, you knew another alleged Marine would chime in on our 'slowness'. You are insinuating that most of us are 'ungreatful' for our freedoms of speech, the very thing you said you fought for our right to do. Confusing. Then you typed the first gem " I recommend that you log off this site and ignore the ignorance of the majority of its faithful followers." Webster defines ignore as: to refuse to take notice of. Then your second gem was "I posted a link to this site on my page so that my Marine brothers can browse and see how the memory of one of our brothers is being tainted by some of our fellow Americans." So let me get this straight, you want me to log off here and ignore the 'faithful followers'...so I can go to YOUR page and read what you want me to ignore in the first place? Talk about convoluted. Remember what John Kerry said about the Iraq war "I was for the war...before I was against it!" Your recommendations make about as much sense, as well...trying to put out a fire....with gasoline! Thank you for lucid thoughts. And here I thought I would never learn anything on the internet.
de
7:24 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Paul, grow up and stop starting fights . Your a instigator. Semper made a page so his fellow marines can mourn the loss of a friend. I assume thats what you meant semper. Chris needs to ban u.
paul surette
8:07 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
La verità fa male, sì de?
Dennis Medina
9:10 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Paul is a bored old man with nothing better to do, that's my guess. Enjoy your freedom of speech Paul. Chris only bans people that defend Shawn.
Chris Caesar
1:29 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dennis by virtue of you commenting it's pretty clear that I didn't ban you. I temporarily suspended your account and reinstated it probably less than two hours later. You are free to write anything that doesn't swear or employ graphically violent imagery, and you are well aware of that.
Mike G.
9:29 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
I don't think that's true, there are plenty of people who have defended Shawn (including myself) who did not get banned.
paul surette
10:00 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
I wouldn't call 48 old, sir. And I am the resident martyr here, so I don't appreciate you stealing my thunder!
Mike G.
10:49 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Resident buzzkill is more like it, Paul.
Mr Myagi
11:29 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
I wonder how much money the robbers thought they were going to get from this shop.
de
11:33 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Chris does a good job, he shouldn't have to monitor adults. Do I think there's more to the story-yes but if his kids can read this let's remember they don't know anything but love for their dad, let them remember him with good things.
Dennis Medina
12:09 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Absolutely true. Even I, Shawn's friend, don't know exactly what happened. I do know he didn't sell drugs. I do know that robbing him wouldn't be an easy task because he wasn't going to just give you what you asked for. The facts will come out once they find the killers.
Thomas Carroll
12:57 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
My company sells and installs video surveillance equipment. inferior equipment can cause color change in the picture. I believe the camera looking out the front glass gave the true color of what they were wearing. One indication of this would be the t-shirt extending from the bottom of the first guy's hooded jacket. This is very noticeable as he enters, but the color changes to purple once inside the store. I disagree with those who think he knew them. Two reasons bring me to believe this was a robbery gone bad. 1) If the assailants had come to kill the store owner, then why would they hesitate on their approach to him? Notice how when they first walk in the store they almost act as if they are going to start shopping, and as the first guy gets close to the counter he changes direction and then goes behind the counter where it's obvious the owner reacts, causing the first guy to step backwards. 2) If they came to take care of bad business,as many of you put it, then why did they wait to shoot him? It is my understanding he was shot on main street and not in the store. Why? because the robbers would have preferred he handed over what they wanted and my guess is the owner either refused or is as jirkyrick says.....he had no money available for them.
Jake
1:18 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Those cameras were excellent. Is that a normal package for a business having all those cameras and how much are they?
david mokal
3:00 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I think you got it Thom. I see the same thing now. With my eyes I see on the outside more maroon color but thats me. When I said that he may have known them I feel they were previous customers and he recognised them. I went to the Till's Site a skateboard store at North Shore Mall and relized that this stuff is expensive. Lot more than when my kids had them. Thom can you tell us what the best cams to get I want 2 for the front. Was at Cosco's they had Uniden,Swan,and Lorex. The Uniden seem to be the best. Radio Shack has Non recording $179 and Recording $274 2 cams.
Jake
1:08 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I wonder why they picked that shop. So many other stores nearby with more money I would think.
david mokal
3:05 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Thats what I was thinkin to Jake but after scoping out the prices at the Tilly's site I could see how much this stuff costs even the accessories and apparell.They must have known this.Thats why I think they are skateboarders.
Sweat
11:19 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Personal vendetta and used a robbery to cover it up, or after shooting him decided to rob it?
Max
1:41 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
(1)We have a make from the sneakers. Also, he has a bad leg.
(2) We have some writing(logo) on the sleeve of the second individual.
A) Now, lets start by figuring out who sells the jacket and sneakers in Mass. Show the videos to sales people(using PDA's-iphones.., etc.
B) What other videos are available from nearby businesses, etc.
C) Have Malden cops get info from nearby Malden high Schl. kids...If drugs involved..., they might know. Btw, the kids could tell the make of outfits too.
Agmus
2:37 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
If you brighten up the picture from Camera 3 and blow it up... you make out a little more detail. On the front of the jacket top is a round logo or button that looks mostly like a crescent moon but with a black circle filling in the rest to make a full circle. There is writing on the front of the jacket just under the round circle.
Also, there is something on the sleeve. 3 Lines... 2 close together and one a little under it. At first glance it looked like upside down military stripes, but most likely it is just from the way the arm is and the way the light bounces off of it.
I am sure the police know all of this. They have great technology. But it would give some insight for the public if they had a better idea of what was on the jacket, or what brand etc. So if anyone knows those logos etc... That might help.
david mokal
3:15 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Thats what Ive been trying to do Max. Good goin Max the more eyes the better. I didnt know shawn personally but I knew a couple of neighbors.At the Saugus store at Cliftondale Sq My freind is 82 yrs old and all the kids from Shawns shop would talk to him. They were all nice kids he said. Everyone said Shawn was a nice guy.
Mike G.
2:01 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Today on CSI: Malden....
paul surette
8:11 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Damn it...where is Grissom?
Thomas Carroll
2:04 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I hope detectives requested video from both Oak Grove and Malden train stations for potential matches.
Jake
2:41 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
They were doing that minutes after the shooting, they came into my brother-in-law's business.It wasn't detectives but men in uniform.
Mike G.
2:41 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Hey I have an idea, let's publicly talk about the investigation on an open, public website! Certainly nobody would ever use this information for anything but good.... right?
david mokal
3:21 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
We wont need that Mike they will be braggin to their freinds allways happends. They will hang themselves. We could all go to Skype Im there everynite. They probably got it in Facebook allready!
Jake
2:49 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
No never
david mokal
8:35 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/21201997/2013/02/14/investigators-release-surveillance-footage-in-shop-owners-shooting-death?obref=obinsite Got this from Fox clearer
jirkyrick
10:21 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
In general about crime, I wonder if chief wiggums saw the news story on fox 25 about modern crime fighting techniques and predictive crime solutions or is he still using the mayor Howard technique of I don't use computers.. He should talk to the Burlington police chief ... He seems to have a clue
Brian
12:59 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
This is a sad statement about humanity. It seems that half of the posts here are bent on speculating negative things Shawn may have done to get him shot. Worse yet, there are the deplorable comments treating the whole situation as a joke. I am a big supporter of the first amendment, as was Shawn, but there has to be some really bad karma building for some of the posters above.
Thanks to all of you that are showing civility, respect and trying to help solve this horrific crime. It is greatly appreciated.
david mokal
1:44 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Brian on Skype there are 8-10 of us and they all have this film from NH., Maine to Altoona PA., all over. I go Mallin' on the weekends and maybe hit 3-4 and Ill be watching.Ive seen these stupid jackets before with 2-4 wearing the same and its buggin me. I am almost possitive it was Square One where I go the most.
Concerned
1:43 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Brian, I absolutely agree with you! ..... Thanks!
paul surette
8:08 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Enough with the 'karma' crap. Karma is a myth...an intangible. It's just ridiculous!
Mike G.
8:51 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Karma's going to get you for that.
david mokal
9:04 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
I know Karma. She hangs in the square with raggy brown hair and meth mouth. Her toofs wiggle when she tawks.
de
9:27 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
LoL
paul surette
7:10 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Mr. Mokal....do you remember one of the Malden Sq. drunks named 'Norma the bomber'? My friends and I were talking about her the other day. She was there during the 80's.
Steve
12:52 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
I think most of you guys were directed to the wrong site...
http://talk.csifiles.com/
Was this what you were looking for?
Joe Mattick
2:19 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Will everyone take their blinders of please! The kids are wearing skateboarding apparel, they walk like skateboarders, it happened at a skateboard shop, and even we all not that the other skateboard shop in the area(not going to name names) wasn't happy with him and he was vocal about not liking them. Just do a google search of his comments on blogs and you will see!
Jesse
2:22 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
So this was a hit from another skateboard shop?
Joe Mattick
2:30 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
COME ON PEOPLE! We all know that the other skateboard shops in the area had beef with that shop, and Shawn was very vocal about hating on other skateboard shops; do a google search and you will find his remarks all over blogs. It must have been someone with close ties to the skateboard industry. Plus the were wearing skateboarding clothing. COME ON PEOPLE, GET WITH THE PROGRAM AND STOP LYING TO YOURSELVES!
Jesse
2:36 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Have you called the police to report this was a hit by the skateboard mafia?
Joe Mattick
2:52 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
very funny jesse, call it what you will; a young man is dead and we don't have time for "skateboard mafia" jokes
Alan BISHOP
2:41 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Most of the posts on this page are rediculous and written by uneducated morons who have watched too many law and order episodes...........does anyone really think that a rival skateboard shop had a competing shop owner executed in cold blood over business sales? This murder had nothing to do with anything skateboarding.....period! I can't believe that there are this many stupid people in Malden or the surrounding area....no wonder the city is going to the shit. Have any of you jackasses shared this theory with the state police? If so, they must have laughed their asses off!
Joe Mattick
2:48 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Have you looked up and researched the local skateboard shops. Maybe you should before you comment.
john Pollonius
8:52 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
This Joe Mattick guy sure has an imagination on him
Sweat
11:06 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Any group and kill another group of people. There's more to skateboarding than business, it's a culture and a lifestyle and with any culture people will strongly agree and just as well strongly disagree. For some people strongly disagreeing justifies murder. Saying that it couldn't be a vendetta because they're skateboarders is just ignorant.
Alan BISHOP
4:17 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
@Joe.........Really? Do you really beleive that a rival skate shop had the owner of a competing shop killed? Have you researched the case? Know any of the facts? So let me get this straight, just so I am clear. A rival shop hired two "Hitmen" to kill a rival owner, so they went to the shop, got into a physical altercation with the owner, got beat up, tore up the shop in the brawl, and then murdered the owner? Just a few questions..............A. How come they went there to kill him, in a "Hit" but let him fight with them, until they got beat up and the shop got tore up? If they went to kill him, why not shoot him on sight? B. Is it the normal practice of "Hitmen" to leave witnesses alive who could ID them? Do you even know that there were other people in the shop when the inside fight took place? Why would hired/trained "Hitmen" shoot one person 5 times, after a fight, but leave multiple eyewitnesses inside the shop, who could ID them, and leave them alive? Why not shoot all 3 people execution style? C. Why shoot the victim in the stomach and flee the scene before they even knew the victim was dead? D. Why not just burn the shop and run the guy out of business? E. Premeditated murder and a paid hit for shop sales less then $100K annually? F. DO you know how rediculous you sound with this theory? G. What did the cops say when you reported this to them? H. Get ready for the cops to call because I copied and pasted this link to them. I. You are insane. J. Don't quit your day job
Alan BISHOP
4:19 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
@Joe...........what do you do for a living?
Joe Mattick
5:00 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
why do we have to make this personal... my job? I am a laborer... does that make you happy alan.
anyways, I'm just saying?!
jirkyrick
6:04 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Nobody has to figure out the motive.... The cops already know the motive, there was plenty of evidence and witnesses .... The police are asking you to help identify the perps, not solve the why... That will come out when they are ready to release it.....geez What a bunch of Frank Drebens. ( google it if you have to)
Mike G.
6:10 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Police Squad! (In Color)
jirkyrick
9:33 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Lets hope there is not a nail salon or pizza shop war in Malden.
jirkyrick
9:34 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Or dollar store
Mike G.
11:48 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
My money's on Tina Nails - the sheer volume of people who work there can take on the other nail salons AND pizza shops.
paul surette
6:41 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
I heard Papa Ginos has put out a hit order on all the other pizza places in Malden. Someone coming from Detroit....I heard his name is 'Mozzarella', ...he's Sicilian! I also read somewhere that experts theorize that Humpty Dumpty was murdered. Evidence suggests it was Conagra Foods, who makes Egg Beaters!
Mike G.
7:35 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
You just KNOW Monsanto is involved in this somehow.
Sweat
11:00 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
There's no way these guys robbed a skateshop for money. If you're going to risk a felony for armed robbery and murder you better either make a lot of cash or fix a personal vendetta, otherwise why rob a skateshop when they could've had better luck with cash at a corner store. Just something to think about.
Joe Mattick
11:37 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
it all adds up. If you have see all the airplanes fly over Malden lately you would notice that the con-trails aren't "con-trail" they are "chem-trails" that they have used to control are behavor. I am sure no one reacts the same way but when the government does its little experiements they might not care of the effectiveness of the treatment of controling the citizens of this might town. So why is it that skateboarders are affected? That my friends is the REAL QUESTION! WE MUST NOT ALLOW THESE THUGS TO RUN OUR CITY SO WE MUST ELECT OFFICALS WHO WILL BE THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE! AND WE MUST ALWAYS BE THE BETTER MAN!
Mike G.
7:35 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Are you sharing some of what you're smoking?
Joe Mattick
11:46 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Hey Alan Bishiop! btw... how do you know so much about the crime... what do you do for work?
paul surette
6:43 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Joe Mattick....medication works much better, when you actually take it!
Joe Mattick
1:08 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
don't be a bully man
paul surette
7:40 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Chris, Patch should have a policy where one has to take a drug screening-test before being allowed to post. Call it 'thread posting pre-screening', cause I think Joe Mattick needs to pee in a cup.
Joe Mattick
1:07 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
why don't you pee in a cup paul? you have been they craziest one on these threads for awhile now. I say one thing, ONE THING, that you don't like and I'm the crazy one? look at what happened and stay on topic man. Are you riding a skateboard now paul? cause by the way you are acting it seems as if you might me. ok?!
paul surette
2:06 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Joe, I'm sure most here would agree when I say...I'll take the 'crazy' label you gave me, over your lucid remark of 'chemtrails' any day. Shine on, sir!
Joe Mattick
2:26 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
ok "Crazy Paul", I doubt you even know what a chemtrail is anyway. But regardless of the irregardless you sir haven't yet posted your address or phone number so we don't know who you are and what you are doing here??? So we can conclude... not to got too far off topic... but that you are hindering an on the investigation maybe?
DannyBoy
3:20 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Joe, you probably haven't been surfing the internet long enough, but let's be clear on one thing: a person would have to be insane or foolish to willingly publish her address and/or phone number on the internet these days, because she would be asking for harassment or for her home to be burglarized. Besides, why would Paul post stuff relevant to an active criminal investigation on these boards, wouldn't he just go to the authorities directly?
paul surette
3:34 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Chemtrails are remnants of jet fuel.atomized in the upper atmosphere, then fall to the ground. It's been alleged that certain govt 'entities' 'dope' the jetfuel as part of some controlled experiment, but the only people who believe this are the moonbats like yourself who also think 911 was an inside job. Joe, you really should seek professional help, sir. Mental illness is nothing to laugh at (snicker-snicker)
paul surette
4:16 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
And for the record, JOE.....this is my real name, and I'm on the Malden High Class of 1982 Facebook page. Seems pretty clear to me that I'm not hiding from anyone, as I explained to the other wanna-be detective, Alan Bishop!
Mike G.
4:55 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
I think Alan Bishop is an actual detective, in all fairness.
jirkyrick
5:02 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Hmmmm to paraphrase.... I know a detective an there are none on here. Just saying. Which goes back to my previous posts, the police are not looking for theories on motive, they are looking for anyone that can help identify the murders... That's it, no more, no less, you can keep the other stuff to yourselves.. Really you can, try it
Mike G.
5:55 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Hey man, I'm just keeping it fair. I've been saying all along the same thing as you, Ricky. Go B's.
jirkyrick
9:05 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
No problem mike, everyone seems to be wanting to play TJ Hooker and figuring out the why, the cops know why. That's all I will say about that. B's looking good though
de
8:20 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
I agree with jirk. Completely.
david mokal
9:20 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
I was in the square tonite and seen all the posters all around.
Joe Mattick
9:46 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
if you saw the poster then the posters are the VOID, ok? Christ David get with it! And By the Way there are chemtrails in malden, i have seen them and they do go above the main street area, so think before you speak PAUL and stop calling people out. OK?!
Mike G.
10:23 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
This guy is hilarious, almost as good as the Ted Coates guy.
Arthur
10:19 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
The Ted Coates guy was funny this guy is kinda scary.
Chris Caesar
1:13 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Obvious troll is a bit too obvious for my tastes.
Julie Meara
2:23 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Lynette- Yes his friends & family are seeing this garbage. Please show some respect. This is a man that fought for our country. His wife is without her husband and their children are fatherless. Blame the victim when you have no facts. To anyone who posted anything negative I pray you never find your family in this situation. Shame on you.
TheUglyTruth
3:03 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Look, it's terrible, terrible, terrible that this happened, right? I mean, absolutely 100% awful that a father should be murdered in his own store, but now I see these signs all over Malden looking for tips on solving this crime and i have to recall that the victim sued to sell those "Stop Snitchin'" shirts in his store. They used to be in the window. So, which is it? Stop snitchin' if it's somebody els's family, but it's different for my family.
Too many dirtbags walking the streets of this town. Those banners on Main S.by the hair school that say "Malden, a great place to raise kids", etc. should really say "Malden: 2nd hand smoke capital of Mass" "Malden, first in the state for nail salons and check cashing places"
Mike G.
3:05 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I don't believe they ever sold those shirts there. That's not skateboard culture, but nice try.
Diana
3:06 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Hey, we're nowhere NEAR first for check-cashing places. Nail salons I'll grant you.
Alan BISHOP
4:06 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
"Stop Snitching", wan't that like over five years ago, when that culture existed? Everyone needs to take a step back and realize that Shawn only owned this shop, "Patriot Skate Boards" for around two years. The previous owner, when the shop was "Ocean Frog" might have been the one that sold the shirts, if they were ever sold in Malden. I don't remember those shirts ever being sold in Malden. The previous owner is also the one that had a problem with letting minors drink and do other shenanighans there. Everyone has to check the facts and do the research before they openly comment on items that are just not true. That three store block, had a lot of problems when the Ocean Frog shop was there, as well as when the office for the sober house was on the left side. There were lots of people in the area then, and often they were drug addicts going to the office looking for housing, addicts in recovery coming to pay rent, and addicts in recovery coming for drug tests. Since the sober house office left, and Ocean Frog left, the block improved dramatically. That was all inside of a two year window, or right around two years now.
de
6:05 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
So did they fight inside then the shot him outside
Alan BISHOP
6:47 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
According to witness reports, the fight started inside the store, and then continued outside the store. The victim was shot outside the store. Again, according to witness reports. I am not aware that this information has been confirmed by the police. Live interviews by the media on the afternoon of the shooting also corroborate this information. The police have not released many details, as the investigation is still ongoing.
TheUglyTruth
6:58 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
No, no, it was Patriot Skate Shop selling "Stop Snitching" shirt- whether or not that's part of skate culture, I saw them. I actually stopped and was going to go in and tell them that it sent a terrible message to the kids who go in there, but I sat there for a minute and figured there wasn't much chance of making anybody in the shop see my point of view. I'm not trying anything, swear (r.e. "nice try"). I don't have any agenda at all- no matter what, I think it's absolutely terrible what happened to this guy. Just this one thing keeps sticking in my crawl. Who knows? Maybe those shirts were in the window right when he bought it or something.