I am glad that I read your message, my neighbor just told me about the shooting I saw the helecopters this morning but I did not know what happened, I got the info. on the
computer from Malden Patch about this plus a stabbing, It is getting so you have to
be afraid to go out.

Thanks David, I didn't understand why until I read your comments on what was happening. My grand-daughters and grand-son attends the schools they locked down
and they were scared. I texted them to tell them why.

thank-you so much!!!!

Greg I heard 85 or 82 Warren maybe im wrong but thats where they sent the Ambulance. Maybe its time to get my ears dug out lol

David. Actual shooting was at the Sun Kong parking lot. The victims ran and was found on Warren Ave.

OK was trying to listen to to many things at once. Its almost like same time same station for that area. Thx

Don't mess with Howlin' Wolf!

Yes, the HS is on lockdown, as is the Ferryway and IDK which other schools. I know I'm probably overreacting, but I'm starting to really consider moving.

Raj< if you think you can do a better job than Mayor Christenson then why dont you run for mayor instead of critizing him. He is doing an awesome job. And he will be the right person to bring our city back. Oh yes and Raj no offense but i will not be voting for you.

Not the Mayors Fault Its the last Administration that turned Deaf Ears. The Mayor is doing a great job. So are the Police They were there in seconds after the call came in.

I'm with you Raj
We need to see some foot patrol in the city, police have to start walking the beat.
And as Maria mentions yes the Maplewood gang are back, I saw one of them the other day in the square.
Stop them metal detect them for weapons.
Hey go to Melrose, police are always walking the beat there, come on Malden we're getting a bad name, people think Malden has changed and not for the good.

Raj, that might be one of the most idiotic comments I have read. Grow up and stop blaming people such as the Mayor for an incident that can happen, anywhere, anytime, in ANY CITY. The Mayor is doing a fine job, while idiots like you try and blame other peoples stupidity as his failures.

Chester I'm glad that this all seems amusing to you. Do us a favor stop posting.

Thanks for the catch Leslie. My typo. I'm the Associate Regional Editor and I'm covering for Chris while he's away (and I used to cover Melrose, so it's often on my brain).

I was wondering the same thing, do kids not go to school anymore?

I think even more concerning than that is how did these kids get a gun?

The shooter is a gang memeber. As is the intended target. Victim was not the target. Not very hard for him to obtain it all unfortunately.

You people are a Joke, the Mayor is doing a fine job, I am sick of seeing negative comments about him, for things that he cant control. He is the Mayor, not God. He is doing many good things for this city, but there is no winning with people who are miserable like you and must only highlight the negatives.

Wow Don, how about give him more than 8 months in office. Sheesh he's barely begun and he's trying to get things done. Obviously this city is in big trouble so he knowingly took on a sinking ship and he's trying to make the necessary repairs to make things right again. I hope the police force and the city can turn this around and we can all be singing Mayor Christenson's praises before much more time passes.

The streets definitely have drug problems, I see it in pupils of people as I run outside.

Just look at the people who hang out at Malden Station all day and tell me there's no problem. Does Malden still have its methedone clinic downtown on Pleasant St or did they cure everyones addiction?

the people I see outside dazed and out of it (not kids but adults) are definitely not on pot.

We cannot put all the blame on politicians and police officers in this city. How about the school department, referring kids who they feel might be in need of direction and adult supervision, how about the parents? I cannot help but feel that there is definitely a lack of parenting going on in some of these kids lives and while that does not make it acceptable that they commit these acts, I am sure that is part of the reason, no one at home to make sure they are on the right track and doing the things they need to do to be on the right track. The court system slaps these kids on the wrists and sends them back to the community, yet again, to be on their own. Maybe if they had to spend a weekend at a jail and by that I mean maybe Walpole or Concord, Framingham (for the girls), the next time they go to do something so stupid the vision of the weekend in jail might at least make them think twice. I am optimistic that maybe this new teen center will help some of these kids who lack the parenting and family life at home.

We def stay high over here in Meffa!

We def stay high as heaven over here in Meffa!Salem st. woo woo.

Steve Lewis I'm sure you make the city of Medford proud. To bad their residents have to admit you live there.

Because drug dealers and gang bangers can't afford a markup? That's logical.

Many times I hear on the scanner daughters beating up their MoMs and Sons beating up the whole family. There are many calls like this its a shame. When I was a kid and even raised a hand to my Father He would pound me in the ground like a peg. Whats that ol saying spare the rod and spoil the kid?

What I have read that says 17 or 18, I really still believe that probably had to do with some parenting gone wrong in some way. They didn't decide to join a gang or become a murder at the age of 17 or 18. Most of the gang activity, etc., starts around 12, when children need the most structure in their life for the transition between junior high and high school.

I grew up in the Linden Highlands but Maplewood was our favorite hangout and everyone there was freindly and no one ever got hurt there.

Why make up a story? Inform your child of what is going on so they are better prepared for the real world....naturally do it in an age appropriate way and try not to make her too scared to go outside. Stuff happens and stuff needs to be addressed and fixed to make this city right again.

I wholeheartedly agree with you Catherine. What some other posters do not realize is that the vast majority of people with a low income are law abiding, upstanding citizens. It is not a crime to be poor. Poor people have been given a given a bad rap. Also, what about the rich who are criminals?

I certainly couldn't afford that.

I guess you're supposed to pay 33% of your gross income as housing costs, so you'd need to make close to 73,000/year to afford 2,000/month in rent.

Well said !

agreed!

So what you're saying is that you live in a neighborhood with poor people and drug dealers, but you're not like those other poor people who live around you? Do you live in the nicest shanty house? Does yours have lace curtains?

I see a lot of people complaining about being surrounded by poor people, I wonder what keeps them from moving? Could it be... wait for it... money?

there's a difference between having a nice shanty house that you worked for even if that's all you could afford and having a government handout paid for by the taxes of the said nice shanty house owner.

what keeps us from moving is its hard to sell in a crime infested area, I actually like the convenience of living in Malden. What I dont like is the way the past admin and all the other elected officials sold the city out with all the low income housing and high rises.

Sorry, you cant convince me that is the working middle class that is going around shooting and stabbing everyone. I highly suspect that the problem is coming from the projects, granada highlands etc. Well that and the Bank robbers from Wall street, but they dont use guns

True and many sell them too. They are getting head meds and they sell those off for vicadin or whatever. But your biggest drug dealers are doctors especially back doctors who hand these drugs out like candy. Anyone goes to my doctor and are getting addictive medicine gets a random P test to make sure your taking them.Ive seen people in Wallgreens that couldnt stand up waiting for their scripts. Dont take my word for it just set outside and see for yourself.

How about the clients at Arbour Counseling who are children with parents going through a divorce? Or people who need counseling after being in an abusive relationship? People who are fighting depression or other mental illnesses? Yeah, close it down because the only people who go there are drug addicts. NOT.

I agree.

That sounds like an awesome idea. Just curious though... who's going to teach the 35 kids who showed up while the teacher is busy chasing down the three who didn't?

Just have them all wizz in the jar and get it tested and if they have it in there system then your out.

that is not true, most teachers do not file unemployment. They are paid for the whole year with time off. That is just more republican anti union BS. The cities advise them not to also, or they will not be rehired

jirkyrick is correct, a teacher can't file for unemployment unless they've actually been laid off. Now, if the schools are laying folks off at the end of the year and rehiring them at the beginning, that's an administrative issue, not the teachers gaming the system.

For anyone who wonders: the average salary for a Full Time Teacher in malden is $75,366. In the entire state it is $70,340. Can't find the info on police salaries, but did find the top 100 highest paid folks from 2008 here: http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/news/top_100_malden_city_salaries/

what do teachers salaries have to do with this. They are there to educate the kids, they are not crime prevention. I love when the anti union/teacher people start citing salaries, time off etc. Teachers are not the problem, the parents are the problem, The are not cops, your kids parents etc. They are teachers...geez

All you do is sit out front where their at and stare at them. Thats it they get paranoid very easy and most times they will leave. They know your onb to them. Ive done it many times. Yup set tyhere and look at em like Hannibal Lectner and they'll leave.

Yes we do they call in more Dogs in addition to.

Just put a rubber band around their head and tell them to snap out of it !

I appreciate any leeway you grace me with. While I'm covering for Chris, I'm still overseeing 12 Patch sites covering 13 communities, but I'll try to keep up as best I can.

That is an awesome idea, but maybe it shouldn't be moved but just expanded! Do we have police substations anywhere in Malden? Maybe that is something that we need!?

I wonder why we don't have someone at the desk at the police station at 4:30 in the afternoon? I actually called to report something and said I was out and about and could I just swing by there. The person on the phone said they had nobody at the desk and to call back when I got home to file my report.

comments like this make me laugh, seriously, you act like people in malden are afraid to walk out if their houses because of this " Serious crime problem" the city has. Just so over dramatic about everything. I walk right out my front door in Malden every single day not worried about crime, yet people like you make it seem like citizen in malden are plagued by constant crime that occurs all the time. While in fact Malden is a safe place and has a lower crime rate then many surrounding cities.

Anthony: you wouldn't be laughing if crime hit your doorstep. Did I say that people in Malden are worried about getting out of their homes? No. Don't attribute statements to me when there were none there in the first place. I'm just saying that city officials have to be more upfront, honest and proactive about tackling crime in this city.

First of all I never said that was you statement, hence the " you act like", But if I was to wait for crime to hit my door step, I would be there for a pretty long time since it hasn't in the 20 years I have been living here. I also believe city officials are doing a fine job in all of those things you have mentioned. But unfortunately there will be always be people like you, that no matter what the city officials do, it will never be enough to satisfy.

Anthony, I disagree with you to some extent. Although I think the new mayor is doing a good job reaching out to residents regarding public safety issues, I have a pretty low opinion of ward 7 city councilor Neal Anderson, where a number of incidents have happened, including this shooting. I never heard a peep from him, no announcements, no public safety meetings for neighborhood residents in the years I've lived there, NOTHING at all, and he sits on the committee for public safety.

Michael......What do you mean "former" Maplewood group. Unfortunately they still exist.

lol

Michael.........."Tyrell doesn't sound like one of them"............what the hell do you mean by that?

Not reading anything into it. Your the one bringing up the Maplewood tie. But if you think that gang doesn't exist, you sir have the wool pulled over your eyes just as the leaders of this city. There are in fact more than just that gang in this city. Take a look around.

Greg enough with this "wool pulled over your eyes" metaphor, I think you have exhausted it already in this forum. Also you keep saying how malden has such a bad gang problem, which it doesn't, yet has not said one piece of evidence to back it up.

I have plenty of evidence to back it up. I am not putting what I know onto a public forum, dah. The police have all information that I know. So as i said a few minutes ago. If you don't have any facts on a situation you shouldn't be out hee saying the complete opposite of what really went on.

What evidence do you have?!?! And why if both you and the malden police have this evidence, the police along with malden officials also claim that gangs are not a problem in Malden. "the police would know best whether we have gangs, and when I ask that question, [the police] don't believe we do," the mayor said.

Does Malden have gangs?........Is water WET!?
Get use to it folks..it's only going to get worse.....

I wouldn't say malden has a gang problem at all. Maybe a group of kids who are wannabes but thats about it. There is defiantly no serious gang organization being ran to run drugs and commit crimes to obtain many. So I believe Malden officials are correct in saying there is not a Gang problem in Malden.

No gangs in Malden, Anthony? A couple of years ago, there was a pair of sneakers tied together hanging on the electric wire on the cross street from my street. Isn't that an indication of how gangs mark their territory? I called my councilor and DPW about this, and they eventually took that down.

Theres nothing to pretend Malden doesn't have a gang problem. A group of kids running around pretending their a gang isn't a gang problem. Yes, its a problem in the sense that these young kids are getting in all kinds of trouble and committing various crimes. But there is no gang wars or some kind of mass gang organization to run drugs. We do not see any of that, their are not gangs fighting amongst themselves to claim territory and things of that nature.

Anthony..... Sir you not only have the wool pulled over eyes, you have the whole damn hat pulled over your eyes. You sir are the one in need of a reality check if you really believe what your own postings say.

Wow really Dan, a pair of shoes hanging on power lines.... Is that a joke? Young kids do that all the time, there is absolutely no link between gangs and shoes on a wire. You are honestly delusional there is not a gang problem in malden. Gangs are not fighting each other over territory, and marking theirs with " Sneakers hanging from wires." I really don't understand where people come up with this stuff.

Anthony..really gangs PRETENDING to be gangs? Guess what, go cross the Maplewood Gang and see what happens.....and they won't PRETEND to do violence to you, they WILL do violence you!! Just saying...go try it.....and get back to us.

ha - you'd be surprised at all the perks they can afford - certainly more than you or I who actually work to pay our mortages, rents, bills, and food expenses...they love America! where else can you sit around all day long doing nothing and get paid for it

Carol that means we can see moore shootings here. There will be more Retaliation. I read that too in Boston.com.

The news paper will try and link any shooting to possible gang violence to put out a juicer story. While in fact this shooting had nothing to do with gang violence. Everyone that was involved were all friends with one another. "The victim's mother, who gave her name only as Diane, said she was at the scene of the crime Monday on her way to pick up her son at the home of a friend located at 5 Wyeth St., where police arrested Berberena." They were all friends with one another, and for whatever the reason an altercation took place, be defiantly not one gang fighting another over turf or drugs or anything like that.

Anthony you need to stop posting on an issue you have absolutely no clue as to what your talking about. Monday's shooting was not amongst friends. The victim and shooter are not friends, and it is gang related. You appear to be one of these Malden residents that seems to think tha if you ignore something it will go away. When in fact it is the very ignorance that has gotten this city into the situation it is now.

Anthony, I don't know how you can state that both suspect and victim were "friends" from reading the Boston.com article. Facts will come out from this investigation, and don't be surprised if they indicate that the suspect has ties to gangs and/or the incident is drug-related.

Greg and Dan did you not read the article where it clearly says the victims mother was picking her son up at 5 Wyeth St, the house of Anthony Ellison. The same house that the police found the shooter Tyrell Berberena. So please do a little more research rather then being one of those over dramatic types who will jump to everything being a gang problem when in reality there is not a gang problem in malden.

Anthony......Yes the victim and Ellison were friends. The victim is not friends with the shooter, nor was the the other kid that was with the victim. Before you go any further sir. I do have everyone of my facts straight. I am very close to this situation. A lot closer than you think you are by just reading print on the web or newspapers.

Blahblahpoorpeoplesuckblah. Message received. Also, "too." Personally, I'd be delighted to introduce a literacy requirement for living here.

Poor people don't suck... The criminals from the projects And sect 8 housing may suck though. Do the math... See the correlation , the relationship.... The more the low rent has increased in Malden, so has the crime.... Why doesn't melrose see the same problem, it is right next to Malden

And I am anything but rich... Just your average homeowner working to make a living and so sick of the crime wave coming from these areas....

maybe because those towns don't have an abundance of absentee landlords who will rent to just about anyone who insures a guaranteed check in the mail in spite of the neighbors who actually work to make their homes presentable

Oops type.... People that don't belong.... See stoopid iPad

My hands are too big and I hit double keys. I see that all over when Im walking the dogs there all making there deals.Im not far from the Ferryway either.Woburn Police did catch one dealer from #2 Hancock so thats one down.

White collar crimes far surpasses the so called Poor People Crimes. Just look at the City Hall Heist of 518,000 bucharooos. That was one hell of a robbery and who knows how much more? No difference! "You Can't Make A Silk Purse Out Of A Sow's Ear"

Michael, you can't generalize that to all single parent households. I'm sure there are single mothers out there who do a great job raising their kids. In this case, I'm going to hold the mother accountable for what she has done (or not done) to properly raise her child. It's sad and upsetting to see how little involvement she has in his life.

I agree with you, sometimes that is the problem, a lack of discipline in the home if it is a one parent household; however, I also agree with DannyBoy, that is not always the case. Single parent or not, money or not, it is what the parents teach their children, so many of these kids today have no respect for anyone let alone themselves. You walk by a group of kids and they are all swearing, wearing their pants down off their butts, this I do contribute to parenting. While parents cannot be with their kids 24 hours a day, especially teenagers, parents are the ones who have the children for five years before they go into school, this is when a lot of social behaviors are learned, how to get along and play with others, respect for people around you, just old plain right from wrong. So no matter this kid is 17 that was the shooter, I still feel that in some respects it has to do with "lack of parenting," especially reading that she knew he was coming here to buy marijuana and did nothing.

I just re-read the Boston.com article and need to apologize. It did not say she knew he was going to buy pot, oops. What was his previous offense that he was on probation, it said it was revoked. She did state, however, that she had not seen him since THURSDAY, gee I think I would have called the police by Friday. It also amazed me that both mothers showed up at the scene, with the mother of the shooter asking what was going on and was her son involved, are you kidding me! In the article she claims that is not him, he "is a goofball", then why would you even ask such a question, I know that wouldn't be the first questioned I would have asked. The shooters mother lives in Cambridge and stated both mothers were coming to pick up their boys at 5 Wyeth Street, really, no clue at all there was going to be trouble that they both show up at that time? If I was a neighbor of this Ellison kid at 5 Wyeth Street, I would not be a very happy person if this is who he associates with and I would be on the phone constantly, where is this Ellison's mother or father, that they sat at his house "smoked marijuana and drank beers?" But no, it has nothing to do with parenting skills.

Yes.
Oh, @ Suzanne..........Ellison's mother was working, and his step Dad was sleeping because he works nights.

Okay, his mother was working and the father was sleeping, in another house? He couldn't smell the marijuana? I think that might have woken me up or at least I would have smelled it in the house when I did wake up. Were they that quiet that he didn't know they were there.

How do you know they were in the house? Saying your at someone's house doesn't necessarily mean your inside it? Most of you poeple on this site have not a clue as to what your talking about regarding this situation. I'm not trying to offend anyone's intelligence, but you people aren't even close.

He supposedly has a relative that lives in Malden that he stays with ocassionally. But he is from Lynn. Mother lives in Cambridge. Have no idea why he would be going to school in Chelmsford. He supposedly went to middle school here in Malden though?

I do know that there is a school in Chelmsford that troubled kids are sent to, to get them out of the public schools. I READ that his mother lives in Cambridge, not sure where he lives.

Greg, I do not know any of these kids, the family, but if this kid was even outside his house with his friends smoking dope and drinking beer then there is a problem. Don't want to get in an argument or anything else with anyone on this board but if he had the nerve to even be outside doing this, they have probably done it before. How old is this Ellison kid, should he have been in school or did he already graduate and "just hangs around." Since we cannot form an opinion about what we read, if you know personally any of the info could you let us know and we would stop stating our opinions wrongfully on this board.

Do your kids still have a friendship with these kids? I am thinking as a parent you probably curtailed the friendship. I would hope having a relationship with the family you knew this was a problem with dope and drinking and steered your kids clear from this group.

I do know about the alternative school and also Tyrell's school in Chelmsford. The school in Chelmsford, I feel, is when the school department really wants to wash their hands of you at the cost of about $5,000 plus a year we need to pay for this kid to go to the school. Mr. Brown always was, is and will continue to be someone who likes to "play pretend" that everything is just fine. If everything was great at the school why do they need a cop there during the day? On the other hand, it is not, I am sure, all of Mr. Brown's fault that these kids were in an alternative school and believe me, I would never stick up for Mr. Brown but these kids, for whatever, reason, lack of parenting because the parents have to work day and night, drugs, no structure, etc., I feel there is some responsibility on the kids and parents that these kids are in the alternative school.

Absolutly Correct. Thats what my Grandson does. They all have different times.

I am not placing ALL blame on Mr. Brown. Your right parenting is key. But how Mr. Brown runs that school is not right, I'm sorry. Again I have first hand knowledge of this, as do alot of parents in this city. I had both of Mr. Brown's parents as teachers in grammar school, wonderful people, and great teachers. But if they ever went into that school and see how he runs it? They would puke. I've also been told by people that they do not like the way he runs it?

How is only going to school for two hours going to help a kid? I'm sorry but that's absurd.

Mr. Brown, like Mayor Christenson took on a huge problem. Mr. Brown turned it around to the tune that there are kids going to Harvard, MIT, Bowdoin, Wheaton, BC, BU and host of other excellent colleges. It's up to the parents too to raise decent human beings - my children got a good education, were accepted to great schools and loved Malden High where they always said there was acceptance and tolerance, that no kid had to be left on his own, that he would find his niche somewhere. They've turned out productive citizens and we're not even townies! go figure...no need for these kids to turn bad. Mr. Brown is fair and approachable. Mayor Christenson has taken on a monster that needs to be tamed. You cannot blame them for everything that goes on.

Greg, thanks for keeping us informed. Where did Anthony go? I stated on here before. A friend that works in the court house told me, cambridge and somerville kicked out the problem/gang members, from housing. He said that everett and malden took them in. They are here. Tyrell is proof.
Greg, grab your kids by the neck, and tell them to stay clear of all of those kids.

Fred what do you mean where did Anthony go?

We will agree to disagree on the job that Mr. Brown is doing at the high school. But he does pick and chose who stays at the High School. Trust me.I know first hand this is true. Oh BTW. He's not very well liked by alot of the teachers there.
I was not talking about the shooter going to the High School. I was referring to Ellison and why he wasn't in school at the time.

Your absolutely correct. Unfortunately it's going to get worse before it gets better.
Just for the record. The only one charged at this time with a crime is the Baberena kid.

I do agree with you, I also went to Malden High but then we didn't have a cop in the school, the discipline problems were just that "high school discipline problems." Now they are much more than that, that would be why we need a cop there. I do blame the administration, they need to cover up so they can get money and they are all willing to do it. Like I said, I am no fan of any politician on the counsel, school administration, etc. I thought the doors were all suppose to be locked and people could only enter or exit through the front. Are there no alarms on the other doors when they are locked. I was no angel in school but when there was a problem my parents heard about it and it was taken care of believe me, and it wasn't from a hit, slap, etc., it was just they way they spoke to me and informed me it would not happen again.

None of the doors have alrams on them. As far s the doors all being locked from the outside? Thats what they told us when we were there to. But I do not believe that. As I have heard on numerous occasions when the police check the doors overnight they find unlocked doors all the time that the custodians obviously forgot to lock, so. If they are in fact locked during the school day? Why are they found unlocked over night. Go to the High School right now and try the doors. I bet you will find the majority of them unlocked.

you should raise your child better. nuff said on that

jirky............do you have kids?

yes I do, and he just graduated with a masters degree in architecture, never had problems with him.. Was very involved with his school years, took an interest in his life and participated in sports with him every weekend, never once did expect the skool to be the parent and the police. It was my job to make sure he attended skool and did his homework an very proud of the way he turned out!

and yes, I graduated form college, but as you can see, very lousy at typing...go figure since I work in the computer field, where is the irony in that

jirky.......Congratulations on your sons accomplishments, you should be proud. I also have three kids. One married, another recently graduated college and is a full time chef, and one teenager. They are not all alike though. No matter how good a parent you think you are, there can always be problems. Trust me I know. Unfortunately the youngest has put me thru more than the other two combined three fold. You can make sure kid goes to school. But once there, I'm sorry it's up to the school to make sure they stay in that building. And if they don't stay in the building the parent should be notified. And not at 7:00 at night by an automated system telling me "oh by the way your kid wasn't in school today, he will need a note to return to school". Seven at night these calls used to come from the school system saying my kid was missing?

Bootcamp? Kid should be tried as an adult for attempted murder and endangerment and attempted murder of general public. He didn't fire one shot, he fired 4 or 5.... Locked up for life.

I saw a documentary, once.

Liana....I'm glad your finding this thread entertaining? Unfortunately it's regarding a serious issue and is not for entertainment factors. This is why where are where we are, City Hall thinks is entertainment to.

Oh Greg, lighten up.

Mike G.......... Thats the problem with this city, everybody wants everyone to lighten up. You really have no idea the circumstances that went on Monday, what it revolves around, and how quickly it could and probably will explode here.

Really, that's the problem with this city?

Mike G......yeah thats the problem, This city thinks that if they don't admit to the problem and just ignore it, it will go away. Newsflash the gang problem is not going away in this city because according the Mayor there isn't one. So it will continue to get worse as it has for several years now.

Where did the mayor say there's no gang problem?

Mike G......Right from his mouth Monday during his press conference about the recent shooting. As well as on any other occasion he has been asked about it. Do you follow any local news at all. This has been said numerous times from the Mayor.

Link to your source please.

LOL. Are you serious. I don't know how I can link you to my eyes and ears. Oh wait a minute, hear ya go. Channels 4, 5, 7, Fox, oh and I think NECN was even here to cover his press conference Monday. Or any of the other press conferences he's had after a crime that the news has covered. Or if you'd like ask him yourself. Many other people have. We all get the same response. No problem here, nothing to see, move along. Please. Crawl out from under your rock sir.

You'd think information on a press conference would be readily available on any of those websites if it did happen. Strange that I can't seem to find much info on this. You seem to be in the know though - please enlighten all of us as to the circumstances around what went on Monday. You must be so connected.

I have already provided information regarding Monday on this thread. Try reading it.
As far as the press conference regarding Monday. It did happen. Not my fault you can't find it on the news agencies web sites, sorry I don't control those.

@Mike G - it's in the far more detailed article on boston.com that Matt Byrne wrote.

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/malden/2012/09/malden_teen_held_without_bail.html

In an interview Monday, Malden Mayor Gary Christenson, asked if the city was host to gangs, demurred.

"That's not a question I can answer, that's more -- the police would know best whether we have gangs, and when I ask that question, [the police] don't believe we do," the mayor said. "There are impact players that the police have identified and are watching."

Time to get a grip!!!!

don't worry it's not just welfare. You can thank congress too that for each kid you have you get a big fat refund paycheck from the IRS. Just make sure they don't grow past 18.

Unfortunately. More and more kids don't make it to 18 in this country. Sad.

From Cambridge??? I very rarely hear on the scanner someone being run from Cambridge in our city. Dorchester, Brockton, Fall River, Lynn, Lowell, and a few others. But hardly any from Cambridge.

not from Cambridge, from the projects, sect 8 etc. Again ,there is nothing wrong with some of this housing, but there just seems to be to much of it in Malden, as this increased over the past few years, there has been a corresponding increase in these types of crimes in Malden. Not that you can ask the Mayor, the current city councilors or the police chief, that would be admitting that they let this happen and that would be proof that they did

yes, there will always be a bad kid no matter how hard you try to raise your kids right. but these crimes seem to be coming from a particular class of people, not just one kid gone bad

I am by no means finding this thread amusing. It's pretty disturbing that we have to keep having these threads regarding shootings, stabbings, store robberies, and street muggings.
As far as sources go. I gave 5 different sources. As well as other multiple occassions to have heard him deny it over the year.

Why is that relevant? Attack my opinion, not me.

Now who needs to lighten up? I am by no means attacking you by asking how long you have lived here sir. Was just curious for how much of this down hill slide this city has been on, that you have been present here for is all. You have your right to your opinion, by all means. What you and I are currently debating though are not opinions. They are facts that I am stating that have come the Mayor's mouth on many, many occassions, over the last year.

I'm glad you're finding this thread entertaining, Greg :)

All I was asking for was a source, I didn't ask to see your Official Townie Registration Card.

And for the record sir, so have I.

whether you've lived here one year or 100, if you own a home and pay taxes here then your opinion counts...

Greg, you are very passionate. Maybe you should get up off your but and do something instead of type, maybe run for office if you have all the answers. Obviously you dont respect anyone's opinion so you would fit right in over at city hall.

J.Longbow..........I wouldn't fit in as a politician, I'm not willing to take bribes. I'd rather stay on this side and fight for the good people of our city as a regular citizen.
BTW.... I respect everyones opinion sir.

With you on that, although I wish we had more quality restaurants like all seasons tables and exchange street bistro and less like the dockside. Not that I don't like a good dive bar, which the eastern ave dockside is,but hardly a restaurant , but really,all the guns etc are not where all the gun violence is coming from

I think there's really only one restaurant like the Dockside though, and really I think it's a thousand times better than a stupid 99 or Applebee's. At least the Dockside has some personality, Applebee's is completely soul-destroying.

Lol. Not the dockside debate..... Yeh better than a 99 or Applebee's for a bar,,,but definitely not for food..... Now that s a crime mwahahahaha

Mike G. you are funny! One of the comments was talking about how things are not happening in Melrose like they are happening in Malden. Well one of the things that is different is that there are not as many hangouts in Melrose. I was just saying! I love Malden,and seeing the Kappy's did not deter me from moving to Malden. I was just noting something that I observed and thought that it made a difference. You must be a true Maldonian?! As said before, I love Malden and I would do just about anything to save Malden's reputation. I own a home in Malden, and I do not plan on leaving anytime soon. Besides, how would I sell my house in a city with all of these violent crimes going on? Just kidding! I do not want to make any patch enemies! I just did a few renovations on my home, and I am not going anywhere. Come on people, lets be proactive and kick all of this crime in the ass!!!! Can we make Malden the city that I thought that I was moving into? Now seriously, there needs to be something that the people of Malden can do, because this really does upset me to hear about all of the ongoing crime in the city!?

Booze is not the problem. Booze is the solution.

Wow, T. Scott, you might want to switch to decaf, friend.

Its been donr 3 years ago to the Mayor and the Police at that time. They have been here. I know alot about the gangs. They are more than bad kids. Out of Maverick Square Eastie and are here. But the M 13 hasnt bothered anyone inocent but you dont want to look at any the wrong way. Originated in Mexico and Rico.

J.Longbow.........I am in constant contact with the police sir. Have been for many years. Your barking up the wrong tree if your trying to imply I sit back and do nothing. I also have letters from City Hall to back up my work in helping the police in this city.

The rich kids in the suburbs have more money (from mommy and daddy of course) with which to buy the expensive drugs -- or severely marked-up cheap drugs.

I'm from one of those "affluent" suburbs, saw it with my own eyes.

rick
the maplewood gang is basicly all punk white kids that have guns.They came from good families. There are much worse gangs here.MS13

Show me a news story that says that these are the "kids" shooting everyone.

jirky........what kids?

rick, you sure your in malden ma ? 20 year old shot and killed on eastern ave. 93) maplewood gang members arrested and i think are still in jail. all young and stupid MAPLEWOOD GANG MEMBERS
you have to get out into the neighborhood more. those kids came from nice families.

(3) not 93

the white punk kids from Maplewood Fred is referring to

What's going on now is well beyond the scope of the kids from Maplewood. Unfortunately.

yes, there is your one story. please change your opinion

Fred.........Who are you asking to change their opinion, and about what?

that would be me to change my opinion, Fred has proven me wrong, it is the white middle class kids from Maplewood that are at the root of Malden's crime spree.. go figure. I thought it was gangs from the news stories and the descriptions of the perps lately. Malden Patch has to do a better job of getting the story right then

I believe the "young men from a nice family" who started the Maplewood gang are now out of jail. I am not sure if the family still lives in Malden. Most kids in that gang were punks, some from middle class families WHO OWN HOMES in the area.

so are they still kids that live at home with their nice middle class families or are they out on their own now? what parents would let these thugs live in their house? I must be missing something

Suzanne............ That is the problem thru out the country right now. All the gang members that wer put away over, say, the last twenty years or so, back when there was the big push to get rid of them thru out the country, are all getting now, out and trying to reclaim their teritory. Look at the Chicago area for example. Their murder rate this year is well over their average. Most of it has been attributed to the recent release of older gang members trying to reastablish. Which means they are also recruiting.

jirky..........forget about Maplewood would you. The problem in this city right now is a lot bigger than that.

not according to Fred, its the middle class kids from Maplewood

I hear and agree with everything your saying.

rick
you challenged us to show proof of upper middle class kids commiting these types of crimes in the last 2 or 3 years. I gave you some proof. 2010, murder on eastern ave.

Fred.......Who has been arrested and charged witht that murder? I do believe no one to this point?

yes you did, so now I know I have been misguided by all the news stories here pointing to other than white middle class kids. Who knew? Funny hting though, lots of people comment how a lot of people from the poorer parts of the state like dorchester are now moving to Malden because its cheap, and with that we have seen the crime rate go up.

So I link the two in my mind, more sect 8, cheap housing, violent crime going up. Never suspected it was not related and really just Middle Class kids raised badly from Maplewood. Thats quite a long run they have going now.

We need to get the police to take control back of Maplewood!!

So, just asking , do you think the majority of the violent crimes involving guns in Malden are attributable to the middle class kids that went bad or the increase in sect 8 housing and cheap triple deckers with absentee landlords .or equally the cause.. Just asking

I heard that they are eliminating sec 8 housing in Granada Highlands.... .. not sure how true it is. but if it is , its a start.. back in the day, Granada Highland where luxury apartments...

how about making them actually work for a living

And yet....for all the shooters mothers supposed (by you) benefits, her child still manages to become an "alleged" scumbag of a killer...go figure.

Thats true Fred If your MoM worked at Lou's who was a family freind of My Family I know your whole Family. Your MoM worked alot of Hours and hard that was one busy place. My Mother was a chef at the Ol International Clam House and I think your Mom might have worked there as well. Peopel like your MoM then were too proud to be on any type of welfare.

Your mother was a decent and proud woman! .. there are sooo many on the government ride...it's sickening to see